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1. We may take the Senate in November and elect a more conservative House at the same time. Why would we want to lock in now to giving up our biggest leverage until 2015?

2. So it turns that Ryan (and therefore Boehner) has been negotiating this for months. Yet it is sprung on us with only two days left for the House to pass it, and send it to the Senate where it will be passed unamended along party lines with McConnell and his ilk casting completely meaningless votes against it. Yet Boehner has the audacity to criticize those who have criticized the bill without reading it, as if he had intended that there be any time to read it. What a fraud - he needs to go, and Ryan and Cantor along with him.

1 posted on 12/11/2013 11:53:36 AM PST by Stingray51
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I can understand (if not agree with) the GOP-e desire to let O-care work its black magic on Dem popularity without a huge budget fight. But why TWO years instead of one?


2 posted on 12/11/2013 11:55:51 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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Boehner is spewing poll tested talking points here. They are all over the MSM today.

The GOP leadership are telling us they can’t do anything until 2016. So why then should conservatives vote for them in 2014?


3 posted on 12/11/2013 11:56:50 AM PST by lodi90
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Boehner interrupted again: “They're using our members and they're using the American people for their own goals,” he said, raising his voice.

How does that differ from you and your crony fascists “using our members and using the American people for your own goals,” Mr. Boner?

4 posted on 12/11/2013 12:03:34 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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Boehner interrupted again: “They're using our members and they're using the American people for their own goals,” he said, raising his voice

Their own goals? What are "their own goals", John? Might they be a reduction in deficits, smaller government, less restrictive regulation, repeal of Obamacare, a new tax system, more state power and a strict adherence to the Constitution? The real question for you, John, is, what are your goals?

5 posted on 12/11/2013 12:06:55 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals can afford for things to go well, to work, for folks to be happy. They'd be out of work.)
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We ARE the American people Mr. Bonehead!


7 posted on 12/11/2013 12:10:24 PM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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There is something psycho about the republican leadership, that they would fight conservatives and dismiss concerns about fiscal responsibility.

Even if you want to make a deal that screws conservatives somewhat, why would you openly go to war with the majority of the party, and arguably the majority of the country???

IF conservatives are not your base, who are? Pro Amnesty big spending liberals? I don’t think so.


8 posted on 12/11/2013 12:13:18 PM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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“You mean the groups that came out and opposed it before they ever saw it?”

And why didn’t they have a chance to see it before it was passed, Nancy?


11 posted on 12/11/2013 12:31:25 PM PST by Hugin
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The title is correct, less the “back”.

We will remember in November 2014.


12 posted on 12/11/2013 12:34:25 PM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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Yeah, this is going to be the bonehead two step...step one get this ridicules budget agreement passed. Step two sneak through an immigration amnesty bill probably just before the next recess.

We don’t have recess appointments, we have recess disappointments from this bunch.


13 posted on 12/11/2013 12:51:44 PM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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If the guy is this out of control in front of the press what a horror he must be like behind closed doors.

You mean the groups that came out and opposed it before they ever saw it?”

“Yes, those groups,” the reporter replied - absolutely delighted with the exaggerated response.

15 posted on 12/11/2013 2:35:49 PM PST by DManA
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FU Boehner. It’s crap. It’s status quo. This is NOT why we put you in charge in 2010. Quit whining about what is “politcally possible” and just CUT, CUT, CUT! Real cuts, not fake cuts.

Lay out the waste, prove all this spending is not needed. Quit hiding under the bed when a Dem accuses you of “starving a child”. Fight back. Call them the liars that they are. Quit pretending you can rationally discuss anything with a lying, POS Dem.

Cowards.


17 posted on 12/11/2013 2:47:39 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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Well, I did tell them to “bite me.”


19 posted on 12/11/2013 3:13:42 PM PST by Cboldt
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