Unarmed student shot dead by cop after asking, ‘Oh, you’re going to shoot me?’

The Daily Caller ^ | 12/10/2013 | Robby Soave

[Lmo56]

Moral of the story: "Never bring a mouth to a gunfight ..."

[Straight Vermonter]

I’m in VT so things may be different in your location but all of our city cops and even university cops are state police officers. Smaller colleges do have security guards (not cops) who have very little authority and generally are not armed.

[trisham]

You don't just get to shoot someone 6 times because they won't surrender -- especially when you now have the baton.

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It does seem like overkill to me, but if you've ever seen a person crazed with drugs or alcohol, it may not have been. Also, the kid was in very good shape, and had already wrestled the baton away from the cop once.

I hope that the police did their jobs and photographed the cop in question-head, hands and so on, to show any injuries, or lack of injuries.

[markman46]

here in Calif the campus cops have a 1 mile patrol radius around campus

[smokingfrog]

“The kid” was not available for comment.

[MeganC]

Did the cop shoot a dog, too? If not I’m sure he’ll be reprimanded for slacking off.

[wku man]

"Was 2:00am normal for this kid’s routine, or had he just left a new or relatively unfamiliar environment where he may have voluntarily or involuntarily taken mind altering substances?"

What evidence is there that could account for causing a reportedly mild-mannered kid to physically and violently resist authority?."

You answered your own question.

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[Gritty]

It appears the answer to his question was “yes”.

[Greysard]

I think what was meant was the alleged behavior towards the cop was strange. Not that he was acting strange throughout the night.

Yes, on the second reading this makes more sense. Still, it's very strange that a cop empties his gun into a shy student for no good reason at all. Most likely there was some physical altercation. Insane cops are rare, but they do exist (Chris Dorner was one, AFAIK.)

This doesn't appear to be a very hard case to solve, though. Did the deceased leave any fingerprints on the baton? Does the cop have any lumps on his head? Does any of them have drugs in their blood? The investigator will get these answers automatically. Then, where the deceased was going from at 2am? What was he doing there? (It is relevant to his state of mind.)

If I were to guess without those facts, it's much more likely that the student was on drugs than that the cop was on drugs. Just one "experiment" could completely blow his mind.

[wku man]

"this little tin god SOB cop should have never made it above unarmed rent-a-cop hired to guard a trash heap."

Oh, so you know him personally? Or maybe you've read about him over the years? Maybe you were hired to investigate his background for an attorney trying a case against him? You must know him somehow, to have made such a judgment on his character. Furthermore, you must have personally witnessed the incident, to know for a fact that he is a "tin god" cop who overstepped his bounds.

Otherwise you'd just be talking sh*t.

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[MeganC]

here in Calif the campus cops have a 1 mile patrol radius around campus

In some cities that would mean that the school district PD would have jurisdiction in the entire city. That's not really a limitation that has any real meaning, is it?

[knarf]

I'm guessing it's a suspected drunk stop and the kid was, probably, in fact drunk and or doing something that cahnged his usual behavior like bad acid or PCP or something.

The kid was obviously capable of taking the cop down and the cop was given a chance to walk away, but no-oooo-oooo ... he HAD to show who was the boss.

One needlessly dead kid

The cop's a murderer .. IMO

[bike800]

That’s my first thought...and he would have been justified if he had shot him while the student had his baton. This is a strange story...

[skinkinthegrass]

"smells"that it does; school safety officer: 8 years/9 jobs
student: irrational/drunk? behavior
general ineptness on both individuals;
no dogs to shoot/parakeets to crush.
no more bars/joints to visit?.. apparently.

[bike800]

Uhh...just so I understand you, the cop makes a stop, the kid assaults him with his own baton, and the officer is supposed to just walk away from it??

[clee1]

A campus cop is typically one that is either a) just out of the academy or b) nearing retirement.

A cop that has been on 8 jobs in eight years is neither of the above.

This story smells to high heaven.

[B212]

there is a valuable lesson here.....when someone has a gun, and that person orders you to stop....it is highly recommended that you obey....specially late at night, like 0200hrs...

[yldstrk]

I hate cops

[knarf]

You want a clinical, mechanical response from me regarding an organic event?

Cops walk away all the time .. for whatever reason .. this could have been one of those times.

Who was around to see his embarassment ?

[bike800]

Never seen one walk away after being attacked...never. Nor should they...ever