Posted on 12/02/2013 12:15:00 PM PST by Rebelbase
“You want a low tech works 100% answer ... ok here it is ,, a driveby with white phosphorous or thermite from a stolen car...”
Oh PLEASE white phosphorous? thermite? ya those are low tech and readily available to any Joe on the street. You’re too caught up in this “Red Dawn” fantasy world if that’s the way you think. Might as well suggest a RPG while you’re at it. I was thinking that you’d suggest something like a Molotov cocktail which at least the components are had by just about anyone.
We already live in a police state, they can seize your property and make you prove that it wasn’t illegal (good luck with out having the money to pay for a lawyer just look at the Reese family in NM). They can arrest you for just about anything and throw you in jail. They can shoot your dog and wreck your house if they get the urge and there is not a damn thing you can do about it. People have not and will not rise up against the police state, hell they can’t even get up enough energy to go out and vote let alone take up arms.
The real danger is just the opposite, the government is a bloated parasite that’s looking for more and more to feed it but eventually it will collapse under it’s own weight (just like the USSR). When that happens there will not be any money for cops or their expensive toys. That’s when your neighborhood starts to look like Detroit and you’ll be wishing like hell that there was some sort of police presence to fend off the rabble.
Don’t get me wrong, I hate the abuse that the cops are doing but we’ve allowed them to do that and if people really wanted to they could change it, but they don’t. But a police state is far better than chaos and advocating for that kind of thing is reckless and very sort sighted. Start using your imagination on how to motivate people to put some stops to the police rather than fantasizing about destroying their new toy as that would be far more productive in the long run.
Everybody bring either a quart jar of ammonia or a quart jar of bleach.
They'll mix just fine on the pavement.
More than likely you’ll just end up dead, most probably from inhaling the chlorine gas as the wind gently wafts it your way and if not by the gas then the lead from several dozen pissed off cops that would be more than happy to help in your suicide by cop.
They want you dead in any event. Do you want to die on your feet, or on your knees?
You still have the freedom to chose that much, for now.
“They want you dead in any event. Do you want to die on your feet, or on your knees?”
No one wants you dead so give up the paranoid delusions, most cops could careless about you unless you start to do something stupid or disruptive or illegal. Don’t give them a reason and they’ll just walk on by. Besides, like I said in an earlier post we have the power to change things but we don’t which means that the majority of people are just fine with how things are and it won’t change until their opinion on the matter changes.
Also please think things through before you advocate this kind of junk. So your Red Dawn party successfully revolts and kills all the people in authority. What does that make you? Why the next Dictator and you’ll need the exact same cops to police your new state that you just got rid of. If it can’t be fixed by elections then it can’t be fixed by armed rebellion, we do after all live in a representative democracy.
Not fantasizing or advocating anything, just passing the time ... BTW Thermite is easily obtained or made ... don’t belittle the general publics abilities , give me an hour with a common brake lathe and I’ve hand you 10 pounds of high grade thermite... Snide remarks about RPG’s will get you nowhere.
I personally think that most of the “public servants” will just go home and cry on the TV newscasts when they figure out that the pensions they think they earned aren’t coming and that even with an exhorbitant salary they won’t be able to buy what they need if it isn’t for sale.
....we do after all live in a representative democracy.
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That right there is the problem .. you see we used to live in a representative republic ,,, now that it’s mob rule (representative democracy) we’re screwed. And no elections can’t fix a “mob rule” problem.
I do not now, nor have I ever advocated the initiation of force.
But, if they decide to go full Stalin/Mao/PolPot on us I want people to be able to make that as costly an exercise as possible. Perhaps if they know that they will be less inclined to go that route.
Think of it as MAD for the home front.
Some time when you get a chance look up Agenda 21. Compare the world population goals with the existing world population. Do the math.
we do after all live in a representative democracy.
That's what they keep telling us...
“I personally think that most of the “public servants” will just go home and cry on the TV newscasts when they figure out that the pensions they think they earned aren’t coming and that even with an exhorbitant salary they won’t be able to buy what they need if it isn’t for sale.”
You’re wrong about that, just look at Greece for a good example of what will happen. Public servants are some of the most entitled people out there and the only time serious damage occurred in Greece is when the public servants thought that they’re pay/pensions were in danger of being cut.
Also it takes more than a good lathe to mill aluminum into a powder fine enough for a good thermite reaction. You’d be far better off just buying it off E-bay or Amazon for a few bucks. That said it’s still a pretty useless way to try and destroy a vehicle as more than likely the molten iron from the termite reaction would just roll off the armor steel but if you want to spend the rest of your life in prison or dead then knock yourself out. It won’t achieve anything positive for our country and just provide an excuse to clamp down on those “evil right wing conservatives” even more.
its MADD not MAD.
There is a reason that there was no internal insurgents in the USSR or Cambodia or China during the times that these guys were in charge and it is the same reason that there would be no internal resistance here if someone like Stalin declared himself dictator. That reason is fear. These guys had complete control and if you did something that they did not like not only you but your family and friends would suffer because of it. Talk to someone that came out of those regimes and you’ll maybe understand how it works. You couldn’t trust anyone so you would never be able to organize into groups. Or better yet look at the last remaining place with that kind of control, North Korea, there is a reason that the ruling family has stayed in power with no rebellion.
The only time that you see gorilla insurgent groups fighting the government is when the government is weak and has some limitations on how far it can go to punish the insurgents and their family/friends. It also helps that most insurgent groups get funding either from the drug trade or governments interested in toppling the current government (bullets and guns cost a lot of money you know plus even insurgents expect to be paid).
But like I said, things like Agenda 21 and the like couldn’t happen unless people let it happen. If there is not a revolt at the ballot box then things will continue to decline. But armed revolt won’t change anything and will just make things worse and the threat of armed revolt will make those in charge even more determined to take away your freedom. So by rattling your guns your just making things worse not better.
I was opposed to all this arming of smaller cities and town police forces with more advanced weaponry.
I’m having second thoughts.
Yes, they will cause a lot of deaths, but for those of us who need and want real firepower, the physically closer to us that it is stored, the easier it will be to obtain.
These faux LEO’s will be just doing their job, while we will be fighting for our families, our homes, and our children’s future.
Not only will we be more determined, we are a lot smarter than the average LEO.
I know whose side I’m betting on.
Our family has owned a house just north of Duck for 20 years, so we’ve spent a lot of time down there. (We love it!) Just about the ONLY things the police down there deal with are
1. Speeding;
2. Not yielding to pedestrians in the walkway;
3. Drunk driving;
4. The rare hurricanes...
Now, I’m simplifying it (there’s other issues), but the point is there will be no need for this vehicle other than it looks cool in their garage...
1/2” Barrett would prolly do it, but not to worry about these super armored behemoths for yo Sherriff, they leave em wide open and running when they stop at the donut shop.
I believe the mocking term you're searching for is "tacticool", gear for ParaPoleece sojers.
Get it into a corner and sic a D9 on it.
Is it? Mutual Assured Destruction D_____?
But like I said, things like Agenda 21 and the like couldn’t happen unless people let it happen.
Yet you discourage any thought of resistance?
Go figure.
If there is not a revolt at the ballot box then things will continue to decline.
We have massive systemic voter fraud, every attempt at even minimal reform, whether it be so simple as removing dead voters from the rolls or asking for ID is viciously shouted down, but do feel free to put all your freedom-eggs in the ballot box.
Why does a gasoline pump in Carrington, North Dakota, know EXACTLY who I am within seconds, but we can't have assured voter ID anywhere in the country?
I agree with null.
I just had a thought, null. You could prove vote fraud easily with a combination of a vote time and your personal NSA tracking device...
Interesting...
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