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Google glass-wearing customer kicked out of diner
ajc.com ^ | 11-30-13 | By Adam Falk

Posted on 11/30/2013 5:02:33 PM PST by rawhide

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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

i carry personal recording devices for my own personal security. i am often alone and would rather not have liars railroad me or get into he-said she-said situations - much less an accident - and have people lie about what happened and have no proof they were lying.


21 posted on 11/30/2013 5:22:29 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

In some states it is illegal to tape a conversation without the other party’s consent I believe. It is for phone conversations anyway.


22 posted on 11/30/2013 5:22:39 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Either way, you get a trip downtown, and likely lose your firearms rights.

/johnny

23 posted on 11/30/2013 5:23:04 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Secret Agent Man

24 posted on 11/30/2013 5:23:42 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: 1rudeboy

then he will have video evidence you assaulted him and he will win his lawsuit against you.


25 posted on 11/30/2013 5:24:03 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: rawhide

In the spirit of compromise, how about we let them in with the GG’s on, but after a drawing, the winning customer gets one free shot with a basball bat!?


26 posted on 11/30/2013 5:24:44 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Good point. Let me revise my earlier statement: I will gently remove your glasses.


27 posted on 11/30/2013 5:25:41 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Secret Agent Man

so? is he asking everyone’s permission to take their picture?


28 posted on 11/30/2013 5:26:50 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Fightin Whitey
But he has a right!

I believe it's covered in the Constitution Bills, in the 57th Amendment, isn't it?

Or is it in the Declamation?? Something like that!

Let me open up my penumbra. I feel a shower of emanations coming on.

29 posted on 11/30/2013 5:26:53 PM PST by seowulf (Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum. Cogito.---Ambrose Bierce)
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To: rawhide

Next these restaurants will be banning CCW. Who do they think they are?


30 posted on 11/30/2013 5:27:02 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

In the State of Illinois, he’s committing a felony by recording me without permission. It will be interesting to see how the law on this plays out.


31 posted on 11/30/2013 5:27:25 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: rawhide

A proprietor has a right to control recording and photography on his premises, at least in most states.

There are numerous reasons why an owner or manager might wish to prevent such activities. First would be for the privacy of the other customers and the employees. Second would be to guard against devious use of the recordings, and for attack publicity, or for sleazy lawsuits which are used as a shakedown technique.

And anyway, it is a property right of the business.

One the other hand, in some states it is perfectly legal to sound-record personal conversations of your own, and only one party of the conversation need give permission: that can be you, the recorder. I always record conversations with the agents when crossing the border. I just leave my iPhone on the note-taking app. I wish to remember what they asked, and what I answered. I also find that I am actually less nervous when I know that I am recording: don’t know why, but that’s just the way I am. It also could be a protection if someone claimed that I hadn’t declared something which I did declare.


32 posted on 11/30/2013 5:27:33 PM PST by docbnj
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To: Starstruck

In the state of Washington any store can ban CCW. Although it only carries the penalty of trespassing. And that is if they notice, ask you to leave, and you don’t leave.


33 posted on 11/30/2013 5:29:43 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

yes in some. and that is bad law. but i am able to where i live or if i call anyone anywhere they happen to be. dashcams are legal.

if this wasn’t legal we would not have video of the breitbart guy who exposes liberals on hidden camera discussing how they are more than willing to break the law for politics, and we wouildn’t have audio evidence of planned parenthood covering up statuatory rape cases.


34 posted on 11/30/2013 5:29:48 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 1rudeboy
It's bad form to lay hands on another person without their permission. Generally, there are laws against that.

/johnny

35 posted on 11/30/2013 5:29:59 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Billthedrill
I’m still of the mind that a business ought to be able to serve whomever they like, but if you’re going to have a policy such as this it’s only common courtesy to post it at the door so people don’t walk into this sort of problem unknowing.

What other bad behaviors do you want businesses to clutter up their doors with posts?

36 posted on 11/30/2013 5:30:08 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: 1rudeboy

you don’t have any right to touch another person if they don’t want you to. gently or otherwise.


37 posted on 11/30/2013 5:30:56 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Ok, let me know when you familiarize yourself with the laws regarding recording someone without their permission.


38 posted on 11/30/2013 5:31:11 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: rawhide

A proprietor has a right to control recording and photography on his premises, at least in most states.

There are numerous reasons why an owner or manager might wish to prevent such activities. First would be for the privacy of the other customers and the employees. Second would be to guard against devious use of the recordings, and for attack publicity, or for sleazy lawsuits which are used as a shakedown technique.

And anyway, it is a property right of the business.

One the other hand, in some states it is perfectly legal to sound-record personal conversations of your own, and only one party of the conversation need give permission: that can be you, the recorder. I always record conversations with the agents when crossing the border. I just leave my iPhone on the note-taking app. I wish to remember what they asked, and what I answered. I also find that I am actually less nervous when I know that I am recording: don’t know why, but that’s just the way I am. It also could be a protection if someone claimed that I hadn’t declared something which I did declare.


39 posted on 11/30/2013 5:31:25 PM PST by docbnj
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To: Secret Agent Man

Well, duh.


40 posted on 11/30/2013 5:32:05 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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