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It's official .... Red Eye has jumped the shark

Though it's about the only thing I still watch on FOX News these days, Greg Gutfeld has just been mailing it in since he got his gig on the daytime version of Red Eye - - The Five

I wonder if Bob Beckel realizes that he's the daytime Bill Shultz. At least Shultz didn't take himself seriously in his role. I find The Five unwatchable (in great part because of the intellectual dishonesty of Bob Beckel and Juan Williams, et. al. - they'll just say anything and the rest of the vapid panel lets them get away with it) as most of the rest of FOX news these days but The Five is the essence of FOX NEWS - liberals who will say anything posed alongside RINOs and Tokyo Rove establishment types in a series of Jerry Springer settings

The Five is just a daytime version of Red Eye with more leg chairs - I'm just not sure the 'hosts' get that yet because they try to validate by taking themselves seriously

. Good luck to Bill Shultz he was at least honest with himself about his role ,,, that's much more than most on FOX can say these days - hey it's really all about selling soap

You need to keep in mind that Bob Beckel, Juan Williams and Kirsten Powers are all less sleazy versions of Lanny Davis. Their job is to present the liberal point of view. None is a hard core liberal. I agree that they don't always appear to believe the words that are coming out of their own mouths. But, again, that's not what they're there for. The only way to truly understand the strength of an argument is to test it out against the strongest opposing opinions. Keep in mind that Beckel gets along quite well with Conservative brother, and Williams defended Clarence Thomas during the nomination hearings and got fired from PBS for defending Fox News. Powers is the child of academics worked in Democratic campaigns for her entire career before joining Fox and is quite obviously conflicted with herself. At some point for her a domino is going to fall and she is going to step out into the light.