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72 Absurd Items ObamaCare Requires Your Health Insurance to Cover
Conservative HQ ^ | 11/08/13 | Ben Hart

Posted on 11/11/2013 5:28:25 PM PST by xzins

There is nothing about ObamaCare that’s working. It took a pack of lies to sell ObamaCare – which passed in the Senate by a single vote.

But the ultimate problem that dooms ObamaCare is cost — the sticker shock of the monthly premiums people are experiencing right now who have been thrown into the ObamaCare exchanges. According to a 49-state study by the Manhattan Institute , ObamaCare is causing an average increase in premiums for individuals of 41 percent.

The primary reason this is happening is that the architects of ObamaCare confuse health insurance with health coverage.

The purpose of health insurance is to protect one from a financial catastrophe in the event of a serious accident or a catastrophic illness. If you want to keep your monthly premiums cheap, you accept a high deductible of $5,000.

That is, your insurance pays nothing unless your medical expenses exceed $5,000 in a year. Until you hit the $5,000 in expenses level, you pay your health care costs out of pocket.

You pay for your doctor visits, your check ups, your prescriptions, your flu shots, your colds and sniffles. You pay for your routine vision care and routine dental work — teeth cleanings, fillings, and the like.

I keep my car insurance premiums low with the exact same approach. I have a $2,000 deductible. More importantly, I don’t make insurance claims for fender benders. I pay for those of pocket.

But that’s not the ObamaCare product.

Instead, according to the list on HealthCare.gov, everyone’s health insurance plan must now include:

Contraception, including the abortion-inducing “morning after” pill and vasectomies;

Maternity and newborn care (even though I’ve a 55-year old male with kids out of the nest)

Mental health and substance abuse counseling and treatment

Prescription drugs

Pediatric services

Behavioral health treatment

Rehab treatment

Dental and vision care

Alcohol Misuse screening and counseling

Aspirin use to prevent cardiovascular disease for men and women of certain ages

Blood Pressure screening for all adults

Cholesterol screening for adults of certain ages or at higher risk

Colorectal Cancer screening for adults over 50

Depression screening for adults

Diabetes (Type 2) screening for adults with high blood pressure

Diet counseling for adults at higher risk for chronic disease

HIV screening for everyone ages 15 to 65, and other ages at increased risk

Immunization vaccines for adults–doses, recommended ages, and recommended populations vary: Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, Herpes Zoster, Human Papillomavirus, Influenza (Flu Shot), Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Meningococcal, Pneumococcal, Tetanus, Diphtheria, Pertussi, Varicella

Obesity screening and counseling for all adults

Sexually Transmitted Infection (STI) prevention counseling for adults at higher risk

Syphilis screening for all adults at higher risk

Tobacco Use screening for all adults and cessation interventions for tobacco users

Anemia screening on a routine basis for pregnant women

Breast Cancer Genetic Test Counseling (BRCA)for women at higher risk for breast cancer

Breast Cancer Mammography screenings every 1 to 2 years for women over 40

Breast Cancer Chemoprevention counseling for women at higher risk

Breastfeeding comprehensive support and counseling from trained providers, and access to breastfeeding supplies, for pregnant and nursing women

Cervical Cancer screening for sexually active women

Chlamydia Infection screening for younger women and other women at higher risk

Contraception: Food and Drug Administration-approved contraceptive methods, sterilization procedures, and patient education and counseling, as prescribed by a health care provider for women with reproductive capacity.

Domestic and interpersonal violence screening and counseling for all women

Folic Acid supplements for women who may become pregnant

Gestational diabetes screening for women 24 to 28 weeks pregnant and those at high risk of developing gestational diabetes

Gonorrhea screening for all women at higher risk

Hepatitis B screening for pregnant women at their first prenatal visit

HIV screening and counseling for sexually active women

Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Test every 3 years for women with normal cytology results who are 30 or older Osteoporosis screening for women over age 60 depending on risk factors

Rh Incompatibility screening for all pregnant women and follow-up testing for women at higher risk

Sexually Transmitted Infections counselingfor sexually active women

Syphilis screening for all pregnant women or other women at increased risk

Tobacco Use screening and interventions for all women, and expanded counseling for pregnant tobacco users

Urinary tract or other infection screening for pregnant women

Well-woman visits to get recommended services for women under 65

Autism screening for children at 18 and 24 months

Behavioral assessments for children at the following ages: 0 to 11 months, 1 to 4 years, 5 to 10 years, 11 to 14 years, 15 to 17 years.

Blood Pressure screening for children at the following ages: 0 to 11 months, 1 to 4 years , 5 to 10 years, 11 to 14 years, 15 to 17 years.

Cervical Dysplasia screening for sexually active females

Depression screening for adolescents

Developmental screening for children under age 3

Dyslipidemia screening for children at higher risk of lipid disorders at the following ages: 1 to 4 years, 5 to 10 years, 11 to 14 years, 15 to 17 years.

Fluoride Chemoprevention supplements for children without fluoride in their water source

Gonorrhea preventive medication for the eyes of all newborns

Hearing screening for all newborns

Height, Weight and Body Mass Index measurements for children at the following ages: 0 to 11 months, 1 to 4 years, 5 to 10 years,11 to 14 years, 15 to 17 years.

Hematocrit or Hemoglobin screening for children

Hemoglobinopathies or sickle cell screening for newborns

HIV screening for adolescents at higher risk

Hypothyroidism screening for newborns

Immunization vaccines for children from birth to age 18 —doses, recommended ages, and recommended populations vary: Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis, Haemophilus influenzae type b, Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, Human Papillomavirus, Inactivated Poliovirus, Influenza (Flu Shot), Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Meningococcal, Pneumococcal, Rotavirus, Varicella

Iron supplements for children ages 6 to 12 months at risk for anemia

Lead screening for children at risk of exposure

Medical History for all children throughout development at the following ages: 0 to 11 months, 1 to 4 years, 5 to 10 years, 11 to 14 years, 15 to 17 years.

Obesity screening and counseling

Oral Health risk assessment for young children Ages: 0 to 11 months, 1 to 4 years, 5 to 10 years.

Phenylketonuria (PKU) screening for this genetic disorder in newborns

Sexually Transmitted Infection (STI) prevention counseling and screening for adolescents at higher risk Tuberculin testing for children at higher risk of tuberculosis at the following ages: 0 to 11 months, 1 to 4 years, 5 to 10 years, 11 to 14 years, 15 to 17 years.

Vision screening for all children.

This is not a joke or satire. I copied and pasted all this directly from the healthcare.gov website.

All this cumulatively is very expensive.

Obama must think we are all living in the doctor’s office. We don’t need or want all this crap. Most people don’t need most of the items on this list.

I’ve never had a flu shot. I don’t plan on ever getting one. I pay for my own eyeglasses, teeth cleanings, and annual physical exams.

When and if we need some of these items, most of us can pay for these kinds of routine items out of pocket, which would be even easier with tax-free health care savings accounts.

How expensive is a condom?

Is that what we really need health insurance to cover? Should I really be required to pay for someone else’s STD screenings?

Insurance is always a bad bet — which is why you want as little insurance as possible. Insurance companies make a good profit by betting on your continued good health. I don’t think this makes them evil.

You should follow the example of the insurance companies and bet on your own good health. You only need insurance to protect yourself from a true disaster.

And, of course, anything and everything the government gets involved in gets more expensive. usually exponentially.

But, you might ask, what about people pre-existing conditions?

That’s an easy fix.

They can be put in a high-risk pool and subsidized. But let’s not include self-inflicted illnesses (such as alcoholism, drug abuse, and obesity) in the pre-existing condition category.

But what about the elderly?

We have Medicare. Without ObamaCare, we could restore the $716 BILLION that Obama stole from Medicare to pay for ObamaCare.

What about the poor?

We have Medicaid.

So there was no need at all for anything like ObamaCare.

Yes, the old system needed some reforms — some tweaks here and there.

My Nine Tweaks that Would Have Fixed Most of the Flaws in America’s Health Care System

After we repeal ObamaCare, here would be my nine-point plan (tweaks) to fix the old U.S. health care system, which was the best in the world:

1) If really needed, expand Medicaid to address the uncovered poor (easy to expand an existing, well-established program).

2) Make health insurance tax-deductible for individuals (like it is for businesses).

3) Allow insurers to compete across state lines (competition always brings costs down, improves quality and choices)

4) Expand Health Care Savings Accounts (Tax-deferred, like-IRAs)

5) Cap Medical malpractice lawsuit awards (a big upward driver of health care costs)

6) Subsidize those with expensive pre-existing conditions. This could probably be done through Medicaid.

7) Those who show up at an Emergency Room without health insurance would be treated, but then sanctioned criminally. Probably pay a fine or do community service. Multiple offenders risk jail time (like deadbeat dads). That takes care of the Emergency Room problem. It’s a requirement that everyone have some kind of health insurance done the right way.

8) Medical costs and doctor visits should be tax-deductible to encourage illness prevention.

9) Restore the $716 billion that was stolen from Medicare to pay for ObamaCare.

I actually think Medicare was a pretty good idea. Our parents and grandparents should not be bankrupted for the getting old, or not treated when they get cancer or other fatal or debilitating illness through no fault of their own. Getting old is beyond the scope of what we can expect private insurance to cover. But we certainly don’t need Medicare for all, including the healthy who are producing income. The private insurance market most certainly can cover the young and healthy.

These reforms could fit on a single sheet of paper — in contrast to the 2,700-page ObamaCare law, plus 15,000 pages of ObamaCare regulations.

There.

Health care insurance problems fixed.

We bring overall health care costs down by phasing out third-party payment systems as much as possible (including employer-provided insurance) and by making individuals responsible for the lion’s share of their own health care coverage. Then watch health care costs drop.

Flat screen TVs, personal computers, and cell phones used to be prohibitively expensive for most people. Now almost everyone can afford them, even people on welfare. A flat screen TV used to cost $20,000 when they first hit the market. Now they cost $600 — for a good one.

When the market is allowed to operate freely, without a lot of government interference and mandates, costs always come down — often to almost nothing.

This is how human progress occurs. This is how free-market capitalism helps everyone become better off, including the poor — as even oneof my favorite rockers Bono admits .

We then take care of the elderly with Medicare (when health care really can become prohibitively costly). And we provide for the poor with Medicaid. All this was happening under the pre-ObamaCare system.

We had a mostly good health care system. It just needed a few tweaks, some minor adjustments.

There was no need to completely reorganize 18 percent of the U.S. economy with ObamaCare.


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To: xzins

There’s plenty of people that don’t want to die early because they don’t know they have easily treatable endocrine disease.

Like I said, if you don’t have it, or don’t know someone that has it, you don’t know the toll it takes on the body and the psyche.


101 posted on 11/12/2013 11:30:15 AM PST by wastedyears (The Ender's Game movie was a stupendous, colossal, galactic failure to me.)
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To: xzins

ping for later read on comments


102 posted on 11/12/2013 11:47:22 AM PST by deadmenvote
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
“7) Those who show up at an Emergency Room without health insurance would be treated, but then sanctioned criminally. Probably pay a fine or do community service. Multiple offenders risk jail time (like deadbeat dads). That takes care of the Emergency Room problem. It’s a requirement that everyone have some kind of health insurance done the right way.”

Illegals will be exempted from this, I'm sure.

103 posted on 11/12/2013 12:53:18 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Deo volente

Agree 100% ..... Stay safe !


104 posted on 11/12/2013 1:49:29 PM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: xzins

The Exchanges charge a 2% fee for hosting enrollments. Imagine if you were lucky enough to be an Exchange owner - 2% of every policy purchased. If a million people paid $3,000 you would skim off a nice chunk of change. Hope for losers, change for winners, “Ex” “change”.


105 posted on 11/12/2013 3:08:59 PM PST by Jumper
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To: taildragger
What is really funny to me is all that stuff is a Cadillac Plan, but he is gonna tax those brutally, yet his minions who sign up for this mess get this full boat BCBS type plan with a subsidy, and we all get to pay for it Redistribution, plain and simple.

It ends when we decide to stop working our assess off to pay for this ****.

If I have to choose between starting a new life in a different country or watching my future children grow up as half-starved slaves....easy choice. America is dead anyway.
106 posted on 11/12/2013 5:31:41 PM PST by Wanderer99
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
“7) Those who show up at an Emergency Room without health insurance would be treated, but then sanctioned criminally. Probably pay a fine or do community service. Multiple offenders risk jail time (like deadbeat dads). That takes care of the Emergency Room problem. It’s a requirement that everyone have some kind of health insurance done the right way.” Jail people for going to the ER without health insurance?! there is no ‘right say’ for the gov’t to impose a ‘requirement that everyone have some kind of health insurance.’

So we've finally reached the point where suicide is rational response to sudden unemployment. Well if I lose my job I'm not going out without taking leftist vermin with me!
107 posted on 11/12/2013 5:34:30 PM PST by Wanderer99
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To: Kryn-Man
This is the purest form of stupidity that ever existed. Why is anyone even discussing how we implement this disaster? The American people have been lied to, and the perpetrators need to be held accountable. How do these people face themselves and their children everyday? Not the America I know.

Easily. They make excuses for everything they do and they regard their children to be personal property...so they don't really give a damn what their kids think about them.
108 posted on 11/12/2013 5:36:26 PM PST by Wanderer99
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To: Alberta's Child
If you go to the ER without insurance you should just get a bill — plain and simple. If you don’t pay the bill, you go to jail. Case closed.

Ambulances will deliver you if you can't give informed consent to stop treatment. So if you are unemployed you might as well kill yourself ahead of time.
109 posted on 11/12/2013 5:38:15 PM PST by Wanderer99
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To: Kryn-Man
This is the purest form of stupidity that ever existed. Why is anyone even discussing how we implement this disaster? The American people have been lied to, and the perpetrators need to be held accountable. How do these people face themselves and their children everyday? Not the America I know.

why....WHY??? Because half the country is filled with lazy idiots and the other half are too stupid to realize that they are working their butts off for NOTHING!! Instead of rising up and overthrowing this dictatorship, you all just go about your pointless lives and occasionally whine about it on the internet.

I for one refuse to live in this country as a slave. If I can't crush the Democrats by myself then I'll start a new life in a different land. Maybe some remote island. I'll be poor but at least I'll be free.
110 posted on 11/12/2013 5:42:29 PM PST by Wanderer99
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To: MarkL
...hoping to turn the US health care system, formerly one of the best in the world, into a clone of the NHS.

Brings up another issue on Obamacare lost jobs.

There are a lot of Canadians who have invested in winter time shares and 2nd homes in the US, in major part for access to healthcare here in the US. They hate having to wait 6 months to get permission to have a doctor's visit or an outpatient procedure performed.

Local economies depending upon foreign tourism need to be prepared to take a substantial loss in tourist trade when Obamacare goes into effect.

111 posted on 11/12/2013 5:58:08 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: xzins

This article was pretty good, until I got to #7:

“Those who show up at an Emergency Room without health insurance would be treated, but then sanctioned criminally. Probably pay a fine or do community service. Multiple offenders risk jail time (like deadbeat dads)...”
???
That’s hardly a free market solution.


112 posted on 11/13/2013 8:57:08 AM PST by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger than yours)
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To: FBD

I believe that the idea is that they are taking something without paying, and that taking without paying is some variety of theft.

So, if it is theft, it really isn’t an issue of free markets. It’s a matter of criminal law.


113 posted on 11/13/2013 9:17:47 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

As I’m sure you’re aware, hospitals can and often do, take people to collections if they don’t pay. But going to an emergency room for treatment without insurance coverage isn’t a criminal matter. Or it shouldn’t be, anyway.


114 posted on 11/13/2013 10:23:34 AM PST by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger than yours)
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To: FBD

NOT PAYING is a reasonable bit of evidence one could use to conclude a theft had been intended.

Try it at WalMart.


115 posted on 11/13/2013 10:25:35 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

The difference is the methods of billing, yes?. No one ever receives a bill for services rendered at the time of an emergency room treatment... If one leaves the hospital pharmacy without paying for a prescription, then yes that’s theft. But I’ve yet to see a cash register at the checkout of a hospital emergency room. If that was the expectation up front then your Walmart analogy would be relevant.
Regards


116 posted on 11/13/2013 10:38:58 AM PST by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger than yours)
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To: xzins

If you have a miracle of the Abraham/Sarah dimension, I would think that the Lord could also provide funding for the medical costs of the pregnancy.


117 posted on 11/13/2013 10:52:11 AM PST by BruceS
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To: xzins

That “vision and dental coverage” would be pediatric coverage.


118 posted on 11/13/2013 5:17:57 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Cvengr
Brings up another issue on Obamacare lost jobs.

Not just tourism jobs. When people learn that they will have to pay hundreds of dollars a month extra for insurance, and thousands more if they need medical care, that will cut WAY DOWN on disposable income. What Barky and Friends don't seem to realize is that it's the middle class that spends disposable income on things like new cars, new homes, and stuff that furnishes those homes. The same people that Barky and Friends expect to pay for the new medical care services for tens of millions of new "patients." How many auto workers will find themselves laid off? How many in the construction business? And how many in the industries that supply and service auto manufacturing and construction?

Mark

119 posted on 11/13/2013 5:21:44 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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120 posted on 11/13/2013 5:26:04 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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