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Huge influx of Chinese students drives numbers of international students at US colleges
The Daily Mail ^ | 11 November 2013 | TED THORNHILL

Posted on 11/11/2013 4:27:51 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

Hundreds of thousands of Chinese students are flocking to U.S. colleges and universities, helping to drive the number of international students studying in America to record levels. Similarly, all-time high numbers of American students are studying abroad, although there are far fewer and they tend to do much shorter stints than students coming to the United States, according to a report by the Institute of International Education and the State Department's Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs. They say international education programs do more than advance cultural enrichment. They also are an economic boon to communities that host foreign students and to the students themselves, who improve their job competitiveness.

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1 posted on 11/11/2013 4:27:51 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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I do believe eventually more Americans will study abroad, as more European Universities will try to tap the US market, to make up for falling numbers of college-age students in their countries.


2 posted on 11/11/2013 4:29:42 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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Saw that in the latter half of the 1980s. Everything from engineering to library science. Just shows our higher ed must still have something to offer.


3 posted on 11/11/2013 4:30:10 PM PST by steelhead_trout (MYOB)
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study abroad

I studied abroad, well several broads while in college.

4 posted on 11/11/2013 4:32:53 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: steelhead_trout

of course it does, in certain subjects. The problem is that these departments feel the need to flood them with Chinese students because they apparently don’t have American students who will take enough advantage of them. All of our educational systems that come before higher ed are failing abysmally in teaching them practical skills. They dropped entrepreneurship, business, home economics and don’t teach anywhere near the level of math and science they used to. Regardless of our higher ed institutions, if that does not change this will without a doubt be the China Century.


5 posted on 11/11/2013 4:34:24 PM PST by freedom462
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I agree. Math, especially, has been a weak spot in US primary and secondary ed for generations. Ever since Sputnik (!) they’ve tried to fix it, and never succeeded.


6 posted on 11/11/2013 4:38:19 PM PST by steelhead_trout (MYOB)
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To: dfwgator

I recall hearing from my kids and their friends going to state universities in the late 70’s that all of the lab classes for the sciences were being taught by foreign born graduate assistants who spoke broken English they couldn’t understand.


7 posted on 11/11/2013 4:40:40 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: central_va

Did you major in Women’s Studies?


8 posted on 11/11/2013 4:45:40 PM PST by Patriot95
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To: steelhead_trout

They are here to steal what they can in the short term, and to beat us into submission in the long term—while we produce edjookayshunm, African/wymyn studies and sociology majors, and wannabe lawyers...Our enemies are out-learning, out-innovating, and out-creating. While our kids are drinking, hooking up and showing up on Girls Gone Wild, they are studying, planning, achieving.


9 posted on 11/11/2013 4:47:18 PM PST by Captainpaintball
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Speaking of China, tell me if I'm reading this right, assisting in disaster relief, a just in case maybe here? http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_US_CHINA_MILITARY_EXERCISES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-11-11-16-02-03
10 posted on 11/11/2013 4:56:30 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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These kids pay full tuition, so their money is welcome


11 posted on 11/11/2013 5:05:02 PM PST by PGR88
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This is not a good thing. We are paying for the education of the entire People's Republic of China. Let THEM pay for their own students' education. They keep insisting on their superiority in...oh everything. Let THEM pay!!1

What are we getting for it: NOTHING!

12 posted on 11/11/2013 5:14:48 PM PST by cloudmountain
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The top destinations for international students were the University of Southern California in Los Angeles, the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign in Champaign, Purdue University in West Lafayette, Indiana, New York University, and Columbia University in New York.

A radio spot I heard said those several schools with the most foreign students each had around 8,000 enrolled. A pretty incredible number for any one campus.

13 posted on 11/11/2013 5:21:41 PM PST by Will88
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These kids pay full tuition, so their money is welcome

Their government pays the tuition, not the "kids." The "kids," all 18+, all come to the U.S.A. THREE weeks after the beginning of the semesters. They can't understand why anyone would object.

And then, they get upset when instructors OBJECT to their waltzing into a FULL CLASS three weeks after the beginning of the semester demanding, oh so nicely, for a place in the FULL CLASS.

When asked, "Where were you at the beginning of the semester?" they look so shocked. "Well," they say, "our government just gave us the money."

Their governments KNOW exactly when our semesters begin. They just don't give a s**t because it's NOT IMPORTANT to them. As long as their own students get into OUR colleges, they are content, no matter how much havoc they wreak with their late entry into classes.

Their money may be welcome to you but I think they are just being manipulative, using US for their education when THEIR governments have PLENTY of money for what THEY want.

TSK!!!

14 posted on 11/11/2013 5:24:54 PM PST by cloudmountain
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My wife and I teach Chinese exchange students during the summer. They are great kids who all tell us they would much rather have our schooling standards than their own. The reason for that is simple. In their country they either go to school or are involved in a structured study program 13.5 hours a day 5 or 6 days every week. On Saturdays they are in music classes or structured sports with very little time for alone or family time.

They are far ahead of most of our students academically.

While teaching these teens/preteens, and in discussion with them and their accompanying teachers, we spend hours talking about how our countries and cultures are alike and different. China places much importance on education, the schools/classrooms are extremely strict, and the educational standards are very high. When I say that the classrooms are strict that is an understatement. Parents would come unglued if the teachers in our country enforced those standards on their little Johnny or Jannie. PC and religion will not be found in their schools. In China the kids go to school to learn it is not a social event as it is in our public schools.

Politics are not even in the top twenty topics of preferred conversations with the students or teachers. I do not get political indoctrination from these teens or adults. Educational standards do come up repeatedly. The majority of these students express a desire to return and attend a university here. They are proud of their advanced knowledge but like any teenager think they would much rather have our easier standards.

Like it or not there is one true and clear fact in this. The Chinese students I have dealt with and taught are in a much better position to excel in our college/university system than the vast majority of our own students. The knowledge, learning, and educational standards that the Chinese students are held accountable to are far above any official standards I have seen in our public, private, or home school curriculum.

These Chinese students are coming here to our nation to take advantage of a fantastic opportunity to learn. They are well prepared to excel and will thrive in American colleges. For those of us who have worked with these students there is no surprise at all.

15 posted on 11/11/2013 5:31:16 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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My hope is that this is the future leadership of China and will at least adopt the good things about this country (well at least the good things that used to be about this country).


16 posted on 11/11/2013 5:33:08 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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Huge influx of Chinese students drives numbers of international students at US colleges

In a related story, the National Highway Traffic Safety Board is examining data showing a dramatic increase in on campus auto collisions.

17 posted on 11/11/2013 5:51:50 PM PST by frithguild (The warmth and goodness if Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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I do believe eventually more Americans will study abroad, as more European Universities will try to tap the US market,

Truer words have never been said.

18 posted on 11/11/2013 5:57:52 PM PST by frithguild (The warmth and goodness if Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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To: Patriot95

I’m thinking that he took Anatomy 101 and had to repeat.
That course was a tough one for me and I was a Combat Gynecologist.


19 posted on 11/11/2013 6:00:56 PM PST by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: oldenuff2no
My wife and I teach Chinese exchange students during the summer.

Any reason why you'd rather teach these Chinese students who are already quote "far ahead" of American children, than help our American children who supposedly need to catch up? My guess is you don't want to deal with their whining, but wouldn't that be the lesson they most need to learn, in order to catch up with the Chinese who are quote "much better position to excel" and "proud of their advanced knowledge" not to mention "are far above any official standards" plus "well prepared to excel and will thrive". Or are you not actually an American yourself? Just wonderin'.

20 posted on 11/11/2013 6:07:19 PM PST by Golden Eagle (In God We Trust)
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