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European Roots for Native Americans?
The Scientist ^ | October 29, 2013 | Bob Grant

Posted on 11/05/2013 6:05:07 PM PST by Pharmboy

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To: Pharmboy

Rush can be very, very good, but when he’s bad, he’s awful.


21 posted on 11/05/2013 6:48:02 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: MUDDOG

I’ve wondered how they account for that.

It depends on how the ownership of the Two if by Tea co. is set up, then they just hire Rush to do advertisement spots. just like the owner of a business can pay himself as CEO and then bank the remaining profits at the end of the year.


22 posted on 11/05/2013 6:55:22 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Army Air Corps

I agree! If you put an Alaska Native alongside a Navajo, an Apache, a Plains Indian and a North Eastern Indian, to me they seem to be very distinct types (Oliver LaFarge’s Pictoral History of the Native American Peoples) and the Central American native peoples don’t seem to resemble any of the above. My non-expert guess is different migrations from different areas.


23 posted on 11/05/2013 7:08:01 PM PST by ArmyTeach ( Videteco eos prius (See 'em first) Sculpin 191)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How did they lose the Asian snow flap on the eyelid so quickly if they are truly Oriental?

The epicanthic fold.

Not all Asians have it. Some have it and it is very pronounced--they appear to have slits for eyes. Others (Japanese, many of them) have round eyes like we do. Asians vary.

Theory I read is that the epicanthic fold came about because the Himalayas run horizontally, not vertically like the Rockies. People got trapped on the north side of the Himalayas during the last Ice Age, and the fold exists to prevent the eyelid from freezing shut.

Interesting, either way. Good post, fun discussion.

24 posted on 11/05/2013 7:08:58 PM PST by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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To: Pharmboy
I keep wondering just how much else we think we know just isn't so.
25 posted on 11/05/2013 7:14:24 PM PST by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon.)
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To: JoeFromSidney

You sound like a scientist—even if you’re not. That is the key question that every man and woman in science must ask.


26 posted on 11/05/2013 7:17:19 PM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Pharmboy; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

Thanks Pharmboy!

27 posted on 11/05/2013 7:51:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: MUDDOG

One of Rush’s negative traits at times is to harp on a particular subject to the neglect of virtually every other subject. I remember during Slick Willy’s reign, practically every show was a three hour tirade about the evil of the bent one. Granted, there was no lack of reasons to criticize Clinton, but a number of callers started phoning Rush and asking him to talk about other subjects. I quit listening to Rush for a while too...too much emphasis on one subject gets tedious.


28 posted on 11/05/2013 7:59:13 PM PST by driftless2
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To: driftless2

Dittos.


29 posted on 11/05/2013 8:01:31 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: Pharmboy

AYE.


30 posted on 11/05/2013 8:14:53 PM PST by blam
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To: Pharmboy

But the remains of pre-ancient, “white” Siberian tribes have been found across the north, from Siberia to Europe—even redheads. Also noted by some, as they researched language histories. So maybe it was the other way around. Granted, it’s all bits and pieces.

There was no single American Indian nation across continental America, and there are many contrasting differences between Indian nations, including physical differences—from some of the northeast coast folks with more European features to the Maori-looking (as in New Zealand) folks in Colombia.

Some Indians built wooden houses. Others didn’t, and so on. Social customs varied widely. Some even got along with Europeans more than other Indian nations (until forced to leave their home states and the like). Descendants of some nations are, on average, more conservative than others today (e.g., Oklahoma vs. California).

And yes, many of the remnants of several former nations have hooded eyes and see the many similarities between themselves and characters in Chinese kung fu flicks. Joking with folks from mountainous areas in China can be a fun activity. ;-)


31 posted on 11/06/2013 9:09:40 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: yarddog

There’s nothing about exactly what the mark was, but he did head east from there.


32 posted on 11/06/2013 9:26:09 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop
The Zuni Enigma

The peaceful Zuni of New Mexico and Arizona are much studied, partly because their language, culture and physical appearance set them apart from other Native American peoples. Davis, an anthropologist who has made 10 visits to the Zuni pueblo, now offers the startling thesis that a group of Japanese Buddhists left earthquake-wracked medieval Japan and came by ship to the Southern California coast, eventually migrating inland to the Zuni territory, where they merged their culture and genes with Native Americans to produce the modern Zuni people around A.D. 1350.

Davis uses "forensic" evidence--including analyses of dental morphology, blood and skeletal remains--to support a Japanese-Zuni connection. Further, she notes the Zuni's exceptionally high incidence of a specific kidney disease that is also unusually common in Japan. Yet she acknowledges there have been no DNA studies to confirm or refute her hypothesis, and she has not turned up a single 13th-century Japanese item in North America.
Her bold, highly speculative theory gets a boost from some cultural parallels, including striking similarities between the Zuni and Japanese languages; between the Zuni "sacred rosette" found on robes and pottery and the Japanese Buddhist chrysanthemum symbol (presently Japan's imperial crest). A Zuni mid-January ceremony with masked monsters, aimed at frightening children into proper behavior, is almost identical to one in Japan.

Davis's broader thesis that the Pacific was a "liquid highway" mounts a serious challenge to the entrenched idea of the peopling of the Americas solely via the Bering Strait land bridge.

33 posted on 11/06/2013 2:33:54 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Fascinating. Thanks, blam. Maybe some people here and there did get around quite a bit in the pre-ancient past.


34 posted on 11/06/2013 2:48:28 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Pharmboy; SunkenCiv; blam

This site is near Lake Baikal in Irkutsk province.


35 posted on 11/06/2013 3:38:00 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Pharmboy
You sound like a scientist—even if you’re not.

Even though I'm retired, I guess I'm still a scientist. At least I still pay dues to scientific professional societies. However, I haven't done any genuine research since I retired.

36 posted on 11/06/2013 7:27:27 PM PST by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon.)
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To: JoeFromSidney

Aha...I was right about SOMEthing this year!


37 posted on 11/07/2013 5:39:15 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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