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To: Safrguns

The 9mm round is not very effective IMO. My guess is the Trooper hit him with a 9mm. A .45 would have put him down.


39 posted on 10/05/2013 6:40:26 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Cop had a G22 which would make it .40 caliber. I don’t know what round they use. The .40 has proven to be a very effective round but real shootings are not Hollywood shootings.

The .45 is not a magic bullet either and most .45 rounds are no better than .40 caliber rounds. The .45 may have a bigger bullet but the .40 round is usually moving faster and delivering more energy.

What surprises me is the cop only fired once when the perp was still clearly a threat. If you have to shoot someone never shoot them just once. You keep firing until they are no longer a threat. If that results in ultimately fatal wounds to the threat, oh well.


81 posted on 10/05/2013 8:32:36 AM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: central_va

Note how he accidently dropped the magazine from his pistol at 34 seconds into the video, but retrieved it quickly and performed an immediate action drill to get the pistol back in action.

When I was a police officer, I was in a gun fight with an offender wherin my partner hit him in the torso 4 times with 12 GA 00 buck (Remington 870, cylinder bore) at a range of 15 yards. Most of the pellets struck him. I hit him 7 times in the torso with 5 rounds of 9 mm.

The perp continued to fire at us after this untill he ran out of ammo. He survived, albeit with massive life altering injuries, was adjudged not guilty by reason of insanity despite a lengthy violent felony record and commited to a mental institution.

I dont know of ANY .45 ACP round that has more inherent stopping power than 12 GA 00 buck at close range, to say nothing of MULTIPLE 9MM hits, but my Vietnam infantry combat experience taught me that determined adrenalized people are capable of sustaining MASSIVE trauma and maintaining an ability to fight. Whatever you are shooting, just keep putting the rounds on target untill the threat ends. Shot placement is critical, no matter the caliber.


89 posted on 10/05/2013 1:26:52 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: central_va

The Oregon State Troopers carry .40 caliber.

Baby Face Nelson was hit seven times in the chest with .45 caliber from a Tommy Gun and lived long enough to kill his assailant.

There are no guarantees.


93 posted on 10/05/2013 3:12:08 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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