[wmfights]

I give Boehner less than 3 days after the nonsensical government "shut down" starts to fold like a cheap suit.

Any takers?

Yes

I may be wrong, but my understanding is when the govt shuts down military personnel will still be paid, social security checks will still go out, medicare and medicaid will still be paid so where's the pressure on the Pubs? It's the Rat base that works for the civilian wing of the govt. If I'm right as the pressure mounts on the Rats the Pubs my be able to leverage a lot of things into the final agreement.

I know the Pubs consistently disappoint us, but the Tea Party base and Sen. Cruz have changed this "crisis". The weak in the knees Pubs know they will see primary challengers if they waffle.

[Red_Devil 232]

You are absolutely right. Those nonessential LIV who work for the government and vote for Dems will be hurt the most. Make them stay home without pay for a few weeks. Gees the Fed Gov might work better for once!

[InterceptPoint]

I may be wrong, but my understanding is when the govt shuts down military personnel will still be paid, social security checks will still go out, medicare and medicaid will still be paid so where’s the pressure on the Pubs? It’s the Rat base that works for the civilian wing of the govt. If I’m right as the pressure mounts on the Rats the Pubs my be able to leverage a lot of things into the final agreement.
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One would thnk that the House could easily send spending bills to the Senate to cover any real necessities. Would the Senate reject funding to keep the IRS going? It seems to me that this approach should have been used right from the get-go.

[usconservative]

I may be wrong, but my understanding is when the govt shuts down military personnel will still be paid, social security checks will still go out, medicare and medicaid will still be paid so where's the pressure on the Pubs?

I'll tell you where the pressure will come from: THE MEDIA. They will LIE through their teeth telling the low information voters that grandma and grandpa aren't getting their social security checks so they can't eat, can't go to the doctor, and that the "tea party wing of the Republican party" is trying to kill them.

Don't know if you remember the last government shutdown, however with the exception of the tea party mention above, the Media told the entire country Republican's were trying to kill grandma and grandpa, and that our military wasn't getting paid.

It worked, Republican's folded.

History is doomed to repeat itself here because the Republican Party doesn't have the message out that a "shutdown" doesn't mean Grandma and Grandpa will go hungry, homeless or die.

Still wanna take the bet?

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

I may be wrong, but my understanding is when the govt shuts down military personnel will still be paid, social security checks will still go out, medicare and medicaid will still be paid so where's the pressure on the Pubs? It's the Rat base that works for the civilian wing of the govt. If I'm right as the pressure mounts on the Rats the Pubs my be able to leverage a lot of things into the final agreement.

You're right. The fact that the Collaborators DON'T shut the government down EVERY TIME this comes up, tells you that they're cowards.