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To: entropy12
I'm so confused. The house passed a Continuing Resolution which will fund gov’t minus ACA. In order for this to be passed by the Senate, would not the Senate have to end debate (cloture) else they could not vote on it? Right?

If cloture failed there could be no vote at all? And, then, no funding of any of government?

My head is hurting. Why is the vote to have ended debate bad?

39 posted on 09/27/2013 12:18:07 PM PDT by garyb
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To: garyb
Why is the vote to have ended debate bad?

Because the GOPe agreed to roll over and show the bellies before they got one concession out of Reid. Not even a crumb.

44 posted on 09/27/2013 12:24:36 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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To: garyb
My head is hurting. Why is the vote to have ended debate bad?

The strategy was that they would refuse cloture until Reid promised not to strip the defunding language from the bill.

46 posted on 09/27/2013 12:26:03 PM PDT by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumb@ss Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: garyb
Why is the vote to have ended debate bad?

Ted Cruz spent 21 hours on his feet explaining this to you. Weren't you listening? Or did you, like Graham, sleep through the whole speech?

49 posted on 09/27/2013 12:27:22 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: garyb

Now they can strip out the ACA defunding part of the CR and pass it with 51 votes which the Dems have.


52 posted on 09/27/2013 12:31:53 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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If they had voted cloture down, reid could not simply rip defunding out and debate would have continued... but NOOOOOOOOO... traitors gotta do what traitors do. I will NEVER vote for either of my progressive republican Senators again. NEVER! wicker and cochran need to switch parties!


66 posted on 09/27/2013 12:58:25 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: garyb

Because the amendment to restore funding was approved about 10 minutes after debate was declared over - instead of before, when the 60 vote rule counted.

It was all theater. Only those who voted against cloture were honest in their intent.


78 posted on 09/27/2013 1:35:33 PM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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To: garyb

Because if debate does not end, time runs out and Obamacare does not get funded. That is why Cruz and company were trying to resist cloture of debate.


87 posted on 09/27/2013 2:55:32 PM PDT by entropy12 (With no fear of re-election, Obama is becoming more radical left..thanks a lot all you who abstained)
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