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Libertarian Populism and the GOP
Townhall.com ^ | September 26, 2013 | Mytheos Holt

Posted on 09/26/2013 9:00:07 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 09/26/2013 9:00:07 AM PDT by Kaslin
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I'm not sure why we can't have libertarian populism at the national level and strong conservatism at the local government level.

Maybe what we need are "town rights".

2 posted on 09/26/2013 9:13:36 AM PDT by freerepublicchat
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Instead of trying to convince successful people that Democrats will take away their wealth, why not explain to the middle class that big government is keeping them down?

Because too many Republicans don't understand the connection. Many of them are as in the dark about economics as Democrats.

3 posted on 09/26/2013 9:15:47 AM PDT by freerepublicchat
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I’m not sure why we can’t have libertarian populism at the national level and strong conservatism at the local government level.”

That is actually an extremely brilliant insight


4 posted on 09/26/2013 9:25:58 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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Populism? I can't align myself with any of that.

Jesus Christ: You can’t impeach Him and He ain’t going to resign.



5 posted on 09/26/2013 9:29:46 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: freerepublicchat

Sorry noobie, but that is what you think


6 posted on 09/26/2013 9:32:29 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Crafting a message to appeal to the majority almost insures that you cannot turn the ship. To turn the ship, you have to persuade the majority to think differently. That requires the willingness to actually persuade, to explain, and to talk about principles rather than simply tip your hat at them by talking in symbols and clichés.


7 posted on 09/26/2013 9:38:02 AM PDT by marron
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Not between fire and ice—between hell and high water. Libertarianism is the hell part of it.


8 posted on 09/26/2013 10:04:00 AM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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Libertarians don’t mind kicking in doors to be heard, messing with the GOP rules book in caucus states, generally raising hell in public and going after the college vote and young adults eager for a cause. AND, they are CONFIDENT.

Conservatives are much too, ..... well, ... conservative, to do that sort of thing and mostly quite out of energy to do infantry ground running again. Where are the numbers of our younger conservatives?


9 posted on 09/26/2013 10:24:23 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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Libertarians don’t mind kicking in doors... Conservatives are much too, ..... well, ... conservative

Good point. Conservatives by and large want to be left alone to pursue their private affairs (which is the whole purpose of political freedom) and are typically too busy living their lives to get involved with politics.

Libertarians want to be FREE and are only too happy to make a stink if that's what it takes.

Libertarians need conservatives to keep them from going off the rails. Conservatives need libertarians to do the door kicking and stink making.

10 posted on 09/26/2013 10:50:25 AM PDT by marron
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We also fight at the federal level for whether the left or right wins on social issues.

The feds make law for themselves and the nation on immigration, abortion and gay marriage for the military and in it’s hospital systems and employment, in immigration law, foreign policy etc.


11 posted on 09/26/2013 11:07:06 AM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: righttackle44

Tell me why you prefer what the Republican Party has become to libertarianism. In my view, we’ve passed the Mendoza line; the obvious flaws in the Libertarian party are less significant than the obvious flaws in the Republican Party.


12 posted on 09/26/2013 11:17:20 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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“Libertarians need conservatives to keep them from going off the rails. Conservatives need libertarians to do the door kicking and stink making.”

Good point.


13 posted on 09/26/2013 12:10:02 PM PDT by Toadman (To anger a Conservative, tell a lie. To anger a liberal, tell the truth.)
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To: Kaslin
Instead of trying to convince successful people that Democrats will take away their wealth, why not explain to the middle class that big government is keeping them down?

The Ronald Reagan Approach. Works every time.

14 posted on 09/26/2013 12:39:09 PM PDT by superloser
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I agree with the vital trade off, absolutely.

But.... I must raise the point that conservatives have been broadcasting that soundbite (excuse) that they, “are too busy”, for now ions. THAT is exactly how we lost the country, though it is perhaps true. We have paid the price if it is.

The democrats have picked up on that mantra, and left us scratching our head how they got it all done and we did not.


15 posted on 09/26/2013 1:16:21 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: marron
Crafting a message to appeal to the majority almost insures that you cannot turn the ship. To turn the ship, you have to persuade the majority to think differently. That requires the willingness to actually persuade, to explain, and to talk about principles rather than simply tip your hat at them by talking in symbols and clichés.

Most of our so called "Leaders" are too lazy to to lead. The majority of the people are too lazy to change their minds. After all, there is no remote.

16 posted on 09/26/2013 1:50:53 PM PDT by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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17 posted on 09/26/2013 2:28:32 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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by Mytheos Holt

Having a hard time getting past the "Mytheos."

Isn't that the sort of thing you change when you leave home?

Then there's the "lives in Washington DC," and the whole "recent grad of Wesleyan University" thing.

It's too easy to come up with "stands" and "positions" when you've barely begun to live.

18 posted on 09/26/2013 2:43:19 PM PDT by x
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"You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your condition which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you." -Letter from Ludwig von Mises to Ayn Rand

It's true - they don't put their pants on one leg at a time.../s

There was a time we thought are 'betters' were better - with the help of TV and the internet we know it's not true. The term 'feet of clay' applies...

19 posted on 09/26/2013 2:57:51 PM PDT by GOPJ ( Politicians who fear the people seek to disarm them. - - Bill St. Clair)
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To: freerepublicchat

I like it.


20 posted on 09/26/2013 3:42:29 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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