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To: JediJones
So the technical answer is no, 95% of Americans don't have to pay the income tax, because it's enforcement mechanisms specify that only corporations, or people responsible for corporations, are subject to income tax enforcement.

Woah, let's be clear here - all I did was point to the tax laws that Roberts referenced.

Those statutes limit the power of IRS very specifically, and the Chief Justice invoked those limitations in his ruling, and I pointed that out.

Everyone knows there's something very screwy about the tax laws. Now the Chief Justice confirmed what that screwyness is. The American people are going to have to find the courage to face what has been shown to them by the highest judicial authority in the land. If they can't, then nothing will change.

I don't know - maybe it is unrealistic to expect the American people to do that. I see it as the difference between people saying they want to be free, and actually claiming their freedom under the law.

When people talk about the 2nd Amendment, and having guns in order to fight the government if it get out of control, and prepping to survive the collapse of society, that's all seen as realistic.

On the other hand, when the Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court makes a landmark ruling based on revealing the limits of enforcement of the taxing autorites to the American people, and thereby ensures and protects their freedoms and Constitutional due process, THAT is considered UNrealistic.

When Lincoln called America the Great Experiment, this is what he was referring to. Not an experiment of intelligence or courage, but an experiment as to whether people really WANT to be free, or whether they just want to have comfy chains.

I think we're about to find out, once and for all, the answer to that question in America. And I think that what Roberts did was remove the last shred of denial from the American People. He put their freedom on the table, right in front of them, for the taking.

Whether they will walk away from it remains to be seen.

100 posted on 09/27/2013 10:13:00 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: JediJones
Sorry, I misquoted. JediJones actually said: Based on your article, it sounds like you're saying Obamacare doesn't have to apply to us because 95% of us are not "really" subject to the income tax. Well, how do you expect to win that case when no one's ever won a case contesting the income tax? You seem to be being unrealistic here.
101 posted on 09/27/2013 10:16:33 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

But there have been people who’ve tried to fight the income tax in court and failed. So it’s not a matter of what the people want. It’s a matter of being realistic as to whether or not the system will be receptive to your argument. We’ve proven they haven’t before. Someone may once again try to reclaim that freedom under the law but we have every reason to expect they’ll be slapped down by the courts again.


102 posted on 09/27/2013 1:02:31 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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