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1 posted on 09/25/2013 7:18:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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"Obamacare is an unconstitutional Marxist boondoggle that will destroy our nation"

(which of course was always the point)

41 posted on 09/25/2013 8:18:52 PM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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I’m sure the entire piece is spot on, but the header pretty much sums it up.....(now I’ll go read all of it)


42 posted on 09/25/2013 8:19:29 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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H/T Mark Levin and CSteven Tucker

CSteven Tucker
GOOD LORD! How did this nation EVER SURVIVE the following ‘government shut downs’?

Government shut down EVERY YEAR during the Carter administration.
1976 - two times for 10 days
1977 - three times for 12 days, 8 days and 10 days
1978 for 17 days
1979 for 11 days
1981 for 2 days
1982 two times for 1 day and 3 days
1983 for 3 days
1985 twice for 2 days and 1 day
1986 once for 1 day
1995 twice for 5 days and 21 days
1995 took 2 seats in the Senate and lost 2 seats in the House and we got Welfare reform.

Let’s recap:

6 times in 8 years of the Reagan administration

3 times during the Bush administration

2 times during the Clinton administration

My GOD, how WILL we SURVIVE if it happens ONCE during the Obama administration?

h/t Mark Levin


43 posted on 09/25/2013 8:20:00 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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bttt


44 posted on 09/25/2013 8:20:27 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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Socialism removes incentive to perform beyond the scope of regulation and mediocrity. It kills hope and never changes.


45 posted on 09/25/2013 8:22:10 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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benevolent, my ass.

On spot!


46 posted on 09/25/2013 8:32:59 PM PDT by glock rocks (No comment.)
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47 posted on 09/25/2013 8:36:02 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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Jim, in view of your above, you should support and team with Mark Levin's in his current effort per his book “THE LIBERTY AMENDMENT”!!
48 posted on 09/25/2013 8:36:17 PM PDT by RAY (God Bless the USA!)
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Should have gotten that to Cruz yesterday so it could have gone on record.


51 posted on 09/25/2013 8:45:32 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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I literally wept last night when Senator Cruz read the Hobby Lobby letter, and exactly what the ramifications of this nightmare truly are. Religious freedom being denied just scares the heck out of me.

Thank you for writing this out in your rather eloquent manner. I’m grateful for having found your site and being allowed to participate. Your work is inspiring.


58 posted on 09/25/2013 9:46:40 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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Last night Sen. Cruz revealed something that needs to be shouted to the rooftops. Sen. Cruz learned from Sen. Reid that the health care “train wreck,” due to Obamacare is the expected result. It’s intended purpose is to destroy our free market system of medicine (think of the job losses this would create). Sen. Reid knows that when Obamacare destroys the free market health care system, it would cause a crisis that would call for the institution of single payer socialized medicine. That is what the “train wreck” was designed to do.

These commie DemonRATs are the Devil’s Servants.


60 posted on 09/25/2013 10:04:14 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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The main purpose of obamacare is to bankrupt the lower and middle classes and make them beholden to the government for food, housing, clothing, etc.

Whatever it was that got Judge Roberts to change his mind at the last minute must have been something that would destroy him — maybe about his adopted children?

Because of THAT we get obamacare?!


62 posted on 09/25/2013 10:21:23 PM PDT by Bon of Babble (Didn't make it to the gym today. That makes 5 years in a row.)
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>>>It in fact, nullifies our constitution and bill of rights and turns America into a benevolent dictatorship.<<<

I love you like a brother, my friend, but believing in the benevolence of the incipient dictatorship is misplaced optimism. God help us, Jim.


63 posted on 09/25/2013 10:26:57 PM PDT by redpoll
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Blah blah blah. More worthless preaching to the choir.

Preaching to the choir won’t change anything. Zerocare will go forward, you’ll all knuckle under and buy your zerocare insurance, pay those premiums, and put up with it. You’ll whine about it, but you won’t do anything about it.

Exposing the truth and preaching to the choir is not fighting for freedom. Whining on boards like this is not fighting for freedom. It’s just talk, and talk accomplishes nothing.

Nobody in power cares about the constitution anymore because nobody in power will hold them to it. It’s SCOTUS’s job, and they’ve abdicated that job. Half the justices are flaming liberals and the other half are gutless conservatives. Zerocare could easily have been ruled unconstitutional in several ways, but what did SCOTUS do? They figured out how to make it seem constitutional. Not one single state supreme court has ruled zerocare unconstitutional, and none will.

The constitutional battle is lost. It’s been lost a long time. Viewing things against the constitution is a waste of time. It’s an argument nobody in power listens to nor cares about. It really is “beating a dead horse”.

A physical bullets flying revolution is the only thing that would “take the government back” now, and it won’t happen.

So suck it up and get used to living in the new communism overtaking America.


67 posted on 09/26/2013 7:42:06 AM PDT by triple7
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Agree with you JR, but govt already controls 46% of healthcare in the US (medicare, medicaid, veterans, fed employees).

The horse has left the barn on this one.


73 posted on 09/26/2013 11:32:42 AM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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Freedom is not free bump.


76 posted on 09/26/2013 1:24:43 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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Furthermore, Obamacare destroys the constitutional limits on government. It sets the SCOTUS approved precedent that there are no limits whatsoever on what the government can force on the people, nor any individual right that cannot be violated, nor any states right that cannot be violated. The central government is all powerful. That's totally upside down and inside out.

And it also eliminates the separation of powers. It allows the president and the SCOTUS to rewrite legislation without congressional input or approval.

It in fact, nullifies our constitution and bill of rights and turns America into a benevolent dictatorship.

All of this is absolutely true - but it's done, and it can ONLY be done - by "corporatizing" the people. The 14th Amendment sets up the "power" of Congress to presume the incorporation of human beings (I know, that's completely bogus, but that's what it's used to accomplish). And a corporation is a wholly-owned, government-created entity. Because of that, the federal government presumes total power over people by presuming them to be incorporated persons.

I've written about this mechanism before, and it's not going away. In fact, it's how the Rats and RINOs "do" what they do. Unless We The People study this mechanism, and learn how to "rebut the presumption" that the government is making towards them in applying corporate statutes against them, nothing will change.

Roberts ruled about the application of Obamacare under this corporate presumption. His actual ruling differentiated between corporate and non-corporate human beings. And, because the government owns corporations, he ruled that Obamacare was legal to impose upon corporate persons.

But he also ruled that it could not be imposed on non-corporate persons. And in doing this as Chief Justice, he made history. Because in doing so, he drew the highest judicial notice to the difference in the applicability of the law to corporate and non-corporate human beings under the tax laws.

There's no way to jump up and down enough to exclaim how big a deal this ruling is. Roberts not only pointed the way OUT of Obamacare, he literally made the ruling necessary to claim the exemption. But no one sees that part of his ruling - and those who do see it, say nothing. So it's been ignored - but it's still there.

I tried to explain this situation after the ruling came out. For anyone who missed it, it's here: One Stone, Two Powers: How Chief Justice Roberts Saved America

The only "change" that needs to be done to undo literally every rotten law the Rats have made is to simply require the corporate status of every law to be declared by the government before it can be used, and for the government to have to prove that corporate status against anyone it uses that law against. Right now, corporate status is "presumed" against everybody without telling anyone that that is being presumed against them.

The situation is literally as ludicrous as "presuming" everyone is a plumber, and applying the plumbing code indiscriminantly. If you saw that being done, and in response, people were trying to repeal "abusive plumbing codes," wouldn't you simply tell them, "hey, you're NOT a plumber, so the plumbing code doesn't apply to you"? And if the Chief Justice of the SCOTUS ruled that Obamacare was perfectly legal to apply ONLY to plumbers, wouldn't that be a huge deal?

Well, that's my point - and it's Robert's point, too.

84 posted on 09/26/2013 5:58:21 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Very well said.

I think most of the Democrats and Republicans alike already know this scheme won’t help the American people overall. It’s just another welfare program designed to funnel money through the federal government and to buy votes by making people dependent on the government. That allows our ivory-tower-sitting overlords to skim money, perks and quid pro quos off the money that comes in for themselves while keeping their rapidly growing, monopolistic industry of government in business.

In the long-term, most of them probably know this’ll drive the country bankrupt, but they’ll be rich and retired by then, and they’ll let someone else worry about that.


86 posted on 09/26/2013 6:44:44 PM PDT by JediJones (Impeach Pennsylvania Attorney General Kathleen Kane for Derelection of Duty)
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“It in fact, nullifies our constitution and bill of rights and turns America into a benevolent dictatorship.”

Benevolent cannot and will not last. Too many trouble makers.


98 posted on 09/26/2013 9:23:33 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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