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How Vladimir Putin Became The Chuck Norris Of International Politics
Business Insider ^ | Sept 9, 2013 | By Adam Taylor

Posted on 09/09/2013 2:15:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Cronos

A lovely dissertation for sure, however, you seem to have left out the very important piece of the Syria puzzle;
the oil. That is the bottom line.


41 posted on 09/09/2013 9:37:04 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

Believe it is about oil but also more than oil. Think it is about whether the Sunnis get a base to launch war at the Shia in Syria and whether they can further spread the conflict. Believe it is ultimately about who ultimately has to fight in a war there, U.S. soldiers or Israeli soldiers. The question I believe is whether the U.S. is going to be relegated to both Israel’s and Saudi Arabia’s soldiers as the “policemen” of the world. Will other countries be able to use the United States to carry out their wars for them?, that I believe is one of the questions here.


42 posted on 09/09/2013 9:55:53 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

Also I think it is about who will die in wars in the Middle East fighting for Israeli interests and the Israeli preference that it be Christians rather than Jews that die in future wars serving Israel’s interests.


43 posted on 09/09/2013 9:58:08 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Red White and Blue patriot

Putin defends Russia’s record on freedom of speech

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/25/world/europe/russia-putin-questions/index.html

Has Putin declared Christians as terrorists?

http://culturecampaign.blogspot.com/2013/04/obamas-army-says-christians-are-worst.html

For background, read U.S. Military Fights Christians, NOT Jihadists and also read West Point Study Warns of Christian Terrorists as well as Pres. Obama Shifts Defense Funds to Homosexuals

In addition, read Air Force Engages War on Christianity, Say Lawmakers as well as President Obama Denies Leading War Against Christianity

UPDATE 6/8/13: Congress Counters Obama’s Military Attack on Christians

UPDATE 8/28/13: Pentagon Gay Agenda: Christians = ‘Hate Groups’


44 posted on 09/10/2013 3:41:14 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: RedMDer; musicman
LOLOLOL.
45 posted on 09/10/2013 4:07:51 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Cronos
Putin has NO intention of serving the US intentionally. His aim is clear -- he wants Russia as a great power (think 1815) and him as Tsar

Hydrocarbons. Putin wishes to dominate through oil and natural gas.

46 posted on 09/10/2013 8:44:28 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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To: onyx; RedMDer; Libloather; SgtBob

I don’t know what’s happening with the Exempt America rally today in DC.

I tried but couldn’t find a thread or anything about it currently, just posts some days ago that it was going to happen.

???

Should be going on now, right?


47 posted on 09/10/2013 9:09:17 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44; VRW Conspirator; dfwgator
you guys, AAG and VRW are making out too much of the gas.

Not all of the world is driven by that -- especially the ones involved in this conflict (bar China)

The Iranis, Russians, Saudis, Iraqis all have pot loads of oil -- Syria's capacity is nothing to them

BUT, what they want is power, control

Syria is centrally located and a cross-roads

Iran/Iraq and Saudi arabia/Qatar are clearly playing the militant Shia v/s Sunni Salafist game

there is less idea of nation-states there than in the West, but more in terms of "group" -- Shia hegemony from Baloch to Beirut

Russia is interested in projecting itself as a power and yes, controlling the oil flows is good, but do not forget that Russia for 500 years has been obssessed with winning back Constantinople. Right from the time it fell to the Turks, the Moscowite Grand Dukes called themselves Tsars and Moscow as the successor state to the Romans

That permeated every single one of their decisions, right down to WWI -- in that, the Russians mobilised early, aiming to knock out Germany and then concentrate on getting Constantinople. The Germans had made the mistake of allying themselves with the Turks instead of renewing their age-old alliance with the Russians, thinking they would help the decript Austro-Hungarian empire

Even communists who HATED Christianity like Tukachevsky still had this thought "Capture Constantinople, become a Caesar/Augustus" ingrained in their heads

48 posted on 09/10/2013 10:36:58 PM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos

And....you don’t see how having control of the oil/gas pipelines is giving Russia that power they hunger for?

Really?

Maybe I need to go back and re-read things, I clearly see the drive for control, which includes Europe, and that does include the movement of gas/oil.

Thanks for your insight.


49 posted on 09/10/2013 11:24:55 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
I'm saying that the power with the oil is not the primary driver for Russia, especially for Putin.

Oil is a temporary high, but the Russians are paying for long stakes.

50 posted on 09/11/2013 7:00:31 PM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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