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Many in U.S. Army are secret members of Anonymous; more leaks are coming
DC Clothesline ^ | 8/15/13 | Dr. Eowyn

Posted on 08/16/2013 12:28:03 PM PDT by null and void

Many in U.S. Army are secret members of Anonymous; more leaks are coming

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The group-name “Anonymous” refers to a loosely associated, decentralized network of hacktivists – political activists who hack into secured websites, then leak the information free to the public.

The group originated in 2003 on the Internet forum 4chan, representing the concept of many online and offline community users simultaneously existing as an anarchic, digitized global brain. The group became known for a series of well-publicized hacks and denial-of-service attacks on government, religious, and corporate websites, including U.S. and Israeli government agencies, the Church of Scientology, child porn sites, PayPal, Mastercard, Visa, and military contractors.

Supporters have called the group “freedom fighters” and digital Robin Hoods, but critics have described them as “a cyber lynch-mob” or “cyber terrorists”. In 2012, Time magazine called Anonymous one of the “100 most influential people” in the world.

Anonymous members (known as “Anons”) can be distinguished in public by the wearing of stylised Guy Fawkes masks. Guy Fawkes is the best-known member of the Gunpowder Plot, an attempt to blow up the British House of Lords in London in 1605.

Now a member of Anonymous, who is an active-duty captain in the U.S. Army, has given an interview to BuzzFeed, anonymously of course. He claims that there are many Anons in the U.S. military, including middle- to high-ranking NCOs (non-commissioned officers), who are profoundly alienated from the military. He promises that more leaks are forthcoming.

H/t ZeroHedge

~Eowyn

Guy Fawkes maskA Guy Fawkes mask on the dashboard is just one way this Army captain tips off other soldiers that he’s a fellow member of Anonymous.

Anonymous’ Secret Presence In The U.S. Army

Justine Sharrock interviews the anonymous U.S. Army Anon for BuzzFeed, Aug. 9, 2013.

Are there a lot of members of Anonymous in the Army?
There are more than you would think, more heavily in the techie world [of the military] — especially at Fort Huachuca [U.S. Army installation in S.E. Arizona], where all the intel people are. A lot of them wanted to get the job [there] because they want to learn secret stuff and have a better personal understanding of how the world actually works.

How do you know who is in Anonymous?
Initially we have the handshaking phase. The lingo is still relatively unknown. In conversation, you drop in jokes. If you are with someone on a mission, you’re like, “Man, there are over 9,000 reasons that this is a bad idea.” That initially establishes friendship. Once you feel comfortable with the person and they aren’t just posing as part of the culture, then you talk about what they’ve done and how much a part of it they are. It gets to the point where you are discussing individual operations.

What are the most popular operations amongst soldiers?
Anonymous is so distributed and leaderless that everyone has operations they love and hate. Operation Cartel, especially at Fort Bliss [in El Paso, Texas].Operation Dark Net was universally loved. And Operation Payback was pretty well received.

What about you?
I was involved in the Arab Spring opening up internet communications. I was a facilitator for a lot of people who have more skills than me in the cyber world. I knew people who I met through 4chan, 9Chan, and 7Chan and then a lot of AnonOps IRCs and who they needed to talk to — the organizations that would help them, and people in government would give them resources and access — and was able to convince them to talk to people in Anonymous. I got people in the right [internet relay chat] rooms at the right time.

Would the military consider you a white or black hat?
The military sees me as black hat.

Is that a fair assessment?
All hats are gray. Every white hacker I know has a night job that is very much a black-hat job.

What were the results of what you did for the Arab Spring?
From what I heard they were able to establish ways to assist the activists to have a method where they could get information out of Egypt and have certain Twitter accounts tweet that information on their behalf. But I don’t know for sure. As soon as I was like, “Hey, this is this person,” and vice versa, they did tweet confirmation to make sure that certain Twitter accounts were controlled by certain people, and then I headed out of the room so there would be no “taint” of having a fed there.

Why do Anonymous members outside the military trust you?
My credibility is incredibly suspect in the group. I admit I work for the feds, and I provide information on myself so that they are comfortable. There are people who I only know as screen names but I have put my career in their hands.

What specific actions have other soldiers taken?
There are several [soldiers] I know that probably did things, but I don’t know know that they did. I can legally say, probably under a [lie] detector, I have no proof that they did it. We keep our activities totally separate because at any point in time I can be put in the chair that I can’t lie in. You have to keep the /b/ [4chan’s “Random” board] brotherhood strong.

Does the military know about the Anonymous presence?
Pre-Manning, there were several academic papers put out trying to analyze it and school the leadership. Because the Army is a very top-down organization, they assume that [Anonymous] is too. Leadership wasn’t concerned with it until Manning happened. Then they read everything under the [lens] of what Manning did and it just scared them — scared them blind. They know we are in there and they assume that we are all going to do a Manning or a Snowden.

How have they addressed it?
Every six months you are mandated to get a Threat Awareness and Reporting Procedures Brief. It used to be very much like how to … spot the Iraqi contractor who is pacing off your base. Now it is, “Look at the person at your left and right. Are they espousing social beliefs that don’t line up with Army values? What websites do they go to at work?” With the caveat that it is OK to have political beliefs that are different. You get a heavy-handed feeling.

I have had more than a few officers come up to me and as we are trying to talk about [Anonymous] they are worried, like, “Are you CID [working undercover for the Central Investigative Division]?” Because you always worry about that.

Are the retaliations against Manning and Snowden discouraging Anonymous activity and the desire to leak information?
A lot [of Anonymous members] have been in long enough and are jaded. They are watching as the government comes down harder and harder. There is a growing sense of disdain and hatred because we are complicit in it. There are some secrets that need to be secrets but the stuff [the military] keeps secret just to protect the bottom line — you just feel like you are selling your soul every day. That is a lot of the motivation. Especially for people of the generation that believe that information should be free.

Are we going to see more leaks?
Yes. A lot [of Anonymous members] are mid- to high-rank NCOs. They are well-respected, have connections, and overly large security clearances. A lot of people who are part of the [Anonymous] culture are just dying at this point for something to come across their table that isn’t already out there. It is so easy to leak information that if you want to, you can do it.


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To: null and void

OK, so I’ve got a neighbor with a vanity plate that says “GFawkes” — Now he is a suspect. His cover has been blown. I guess opsec works both ways.


81 posted on 08/16/2013 2:13:07 PM PDT by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation is really starting to suck.)
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To: mylife

Well, we had the opportunity to demonstrate that to all these kiddies by hanging Manning, but we missed that boat.


82 posted on 08/16/2013 2:13:49 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Yip.


83 posted on 08/16/2013 2:16:41 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: null and void

Let me get this right.

The smartest man in the world has spent the last 5 years pissing off and abrogating government’s stated obligations to its military — the same military he would certainly call on to enforce his martial law — and he is surprised millions of them hate his guts?

Smart. Verrryyy smart!!!!


84 posted on 08/16/2013 2:17:57 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”- Voltaire)
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To: null and void

Lol...Excellent mask options!


85 posted on 08/16/2013 2:24:38 PM PDT by USS Johnston (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. ~ Edmund Burke)
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To: USS Johnston; Boogieman
Thank you.

I've added Frank for the next go-around, since Boogieman brought him to mind.

86 posted on 08/16/2013 2:28:03 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: Dick Bachert
Perhaps...
“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” Barack Hussein Obama, 7/2/2008
He didn’t call it a Civil Defense force, that would imply he thinks we need (or perhaps deserve) defense.

The official name is National Civilian Community Corps.

I think of it as the NATCCC, or simply the NATCs...

87 posted on 08/16/2013 2:30:24 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: DuncanWaring
Actually, Col. von Stauffenberg would attest that if you’re doing something important, you need to stick around until it’s complete.

And Cpt. von Stauffenberg, who, in defiance of army regulations, joined, in full uniform, the celebratory parade the Brownshirts held through downtown Berlin the night in 1933 when Hitler was made Chancellor, might attest that you need to be careful what you wish for...

88 posted on 08/16/2013 2:36:49 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: null and void
Ohhhh, it's like THESE guys!!
 photo brownshirtscopy_zpsd159a7bd.jpg

"What good fortune for the state that people do not think!"

Adolph Hitler 1933

“When an opponent declares, ‘I will not come over to your side,’ I calmly say, ‘Your child belongs to us already... What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community’."

Adolph Hitler Speech November 1933

We're getting close, people! Very, very close!!


89 posted on 08/16/2013 2:44:47 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”- Voltaire)
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To: svcw

Stop that! or they will scratch your eyes out!


90 posted on 08/16/2013 2:54:25 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: mylife

I served under Carter as well. I would be shocked to the core, even in that day, to find out there were scumbags like these people serving with me.

If exposed, I would have fully expected them to get brig, dishonorable discharge, or worse.

If one gives people serving carte blanche to tell everyone whatever they have sworn to hold secret, and it is okay to do that if “you think it is the right thing”, then there is no possibility of keeping anything from our enemies.

Ever.

I think the people who are all for “freedom of speech” no matter what post is held or what information is being protected should tell us how to deal with the archaic concept of security.

What, the archaic concept of “security” is outdated? Tell that to the military personnel who WILL sacrifice their lives to this crap.

This just pisses me off.


91 posted on 08/16/2013 3:07:39 PM PDT by rlmorel (Illegal aliens don't have to obey our border laws. We don't have to treat them as citizens. Even.)
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To: null and void

This is a risky business to be part of this group. With the NSA collecting all their data...it’s only a matter of time before they start to search it for these types of people. I guess they may need to turn their collection process internally against themselves so they can catch them.

Also I see polygraphs being the next thing for any IT/INTEL military type. This isn’t good.

Also it could just be hype because typically one just releases the info vice talk about releasing it. Or they give out some in phases (like snowden did).


92 posted on 08/16/2013 3:15:06 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: null and void; Boogieman; stephenjohnbanker
I've added Frank for the next go-around, since Boogieman brought him to mind.

As in "Barney"?? Good one. Now if only there was an "Elroy" from McHale's Navy or Frank Burns to represent Statist kiss-ups. Can't put that in the sheep-mask category...or do we?

93 posted on 08/16/2013 3:30:13 PM PDT by USS Johnston (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. ~ Edmund Burke)
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To: USS Johnston
This Frank:


94 posted on 08/16/2013 3:39:55 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: longfellow

OMG!!! (or a bitch slap)
FR replies the last few days have been really funny......way to go everyone.


95 posted on 08/16/2013 3:49:32 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: rlmorel

Amen!


96 posted on 08/16/2013 3:59:05 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: DuncanWaring; All
FYI: The Resister, link to back issues, too...
97 posted on 08/16/2013 3:59:18 PM PDT by W. (Still workin' on it.)
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To: null and void; USS Johnston

LOL!


98 posted on 08/16/2013 4:08:42 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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To: Junior_G

What is there to be patriotic about? The war on drugs? Local police squads ordering up tanks? Pfffft...

I did my two terms, and right now I am glad neither of my sons seems interested. I mean I’d support them, and tell them to be good soldiers, I am just glad they aren’t taking that route. Well one is still a Jr, but with a high GPA he’d would already have to be contacting service academies and he’s never mentioned it, and I don’t push any colleges on the boys.

I still like the idea of someone watching the Army. I would certainly hope these Anon folks don’t put someone in danger, but we need to watch our govt.

After all as long as they aren’t doing anything wrong what do they have to worry about? I mean that’s what Democrats and Rovian Statists tell us.


99 posted on 08/16/2013 5:27:48 PM PDT by techworker
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To: null and void

i would certainly want to hope there are plenty of people in the military fed up and sick with the obamanation and doing something about it


100 posted on 08/16/2013 6:01:56 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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