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To: Yosemitest; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; Liz; ...
RE :”Better to pay the taxes now, and keep control of your finances yourself, “

Complete BS.
The liberal tax system is progressive so you are always saving money by paying tax later on an retirement income which is less than half that you get while working.

I save a fortune in deferred taxes in my high tax state Maryland by putting the max allowed in my 401K. I also put some in a Roth.

But to those who we are supposed to work themselves to death at Walmarts, a employee savings program will make it easier for them to save simply because that money wont become available to blow on TVs and phones when their kids beg for them, if they opt in. If they don't want to save they can say 'no' and trust Obama to take care of them.

Sounds like a good idea to encourage tax defered retirement savings,

103 posted on 08/10/2013 12:16:15 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

‘always ‘ should have been stated as ‘vast majority’

Obviously most of us are not in the same situation as Romney/


104 posted on 08/10/2013 12:40:18 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs
The liberal tax system is progressive so you are always saving money by paying tax later on an retirement income which is less than half that you get while working.

true, but the problem is *knowing* where the goalposts will be in the future...

eventually, biggov will decide to grab a chunk of the wealth to spread around, and will do it for the children...

in in the generation that will work til death, and ivve understood that for 20+ yrs...

110 posted on 08/10/2013 6:59:29 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: sickoflibs
I absolutely disagree.
Any money saved today in any IRA or 401K will be empty, when the investor goes to get the money out,
either because the government will have taxed it all away, devalued the dollar so it isn't worth any value, or has totally collapsed to where the dollar is no longer an accepted currency.
Obama and the Devil-crats are trying to "Collapse the System" and they are succeeding!
123 posted on 08/11/2013 8:20:21 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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