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To: little jeremiah
There is no excuse for the ignorance of thinking that Nazis in any way targeted homosexuals for punishment or death.

One of my (non-Jewish) relatives was sent to a Nazi concentration camp for being homosexual. He was shot according to Auschwitz records, rather than gassed or burned, so I was a little sloppy in my choice of words. The point is the same though. If you prefer an Internet link to family history, how about the Holocaust Museum?

"The Nazi campaign against homosexuality targeted the more than one million German men who, the state asserted, carried a "degeneracy" that threatened the "disciplined masculinity" of Germany. Denounced as "antisocial parasites" and as "enemies of the state," more than 100,000 men were arrested under a broadly interpreted law against homosexuality. Approximately 50,000 men served prison terms as convicted homosexuals, while an unknown number were institutionalized in mental hospitals. Others—perhaps hundreds—were castrated under court order or coercion. Analyses of fragmentary records suggest that between 5,000 and 15,000 homosexual men were imprisoned in concentration camps, where many died from starvation, disease, exhaustion, beatings, and murder."

We have clear documentary evidence written by the Nazis that the Nazis labeled individuals as homosexual, tortured them, and murdered them. I'm not sure why anyone would question that aspect of the Holocaust.

19 posted on 08/07/2013 4:45:37 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1

The Holocaust museum is filled with revisionist “non-homophobic” phony history. I remember Jews protesting against this very subject and madeup “anti-gay” history a few years ago.

The point is the Nazis had tons of homosexuals in the ranks, Hitler Jugend was known as “Homo Jugend”, and trying to equate the treatment of homosexuals by the Nazis (when many of them were flagrant and unbelievably depraved and vicious homosexuals themselves) is not only patently untrue, it is highly offensive.

I suggest you read “The Pink Swastika”. It is by far the best book on the topic of homosexuals and the Nazis.

Regarding the anti-sodomy law in Nazi Germany, it was actually removed, and then later reinstated; especially to use as tool to arrest political enemies. The Nazis loathed effeminate homosexuals and prided themselves on their uber masculinity - as long as they were the dominant sodomite.

When you say “broadly interpreted law against homosexuality” you ain’t kidding. Many non-homosexual men were arrested - political enemies especially, opponents of the State.

You really, really need to get educated on this topic.
Homosexuals as a class were never targeted for extinction. Most homosexuals who died in camps died from hunger, disease and filth. And very few died, especially when you compare the numbers to especially Jews, but also Slavs, Gypsies etc.


20 posted on 08/07/2013 5:12:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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