[SampleMan]

Being detained in handcuffs, wile being told that you are “not under arrest”, is the definition of a habeas corpus violation.

I say that, because they are parsing the definition of “arrest”. If you cannot be arrested indefinitely without being charged, then neither can you be detained indefinitely without being “arrested”.

I have lost about all the respect that I ever had for the police. They are not on a mission to protect and to serve the citizenry, they simply treat everyone they encounter as a known felon (until proven differently).

For those cops that say, “hey I just want to get home alive tonight”, well so do I, so am I justified in treating every policeman as a felon in a phony cop uniform, or a crooked cop, or a stupid cop? Because, “hey, I just don't want you to shoot my family to death, before you go home safe tonight”.

[Respond Code Three]

"Being detained in handcuffs, wile being told that you are “not under arrest”, is the definition of a habeas corpus violation."

Will you post the appropriate court ruling? A couple hundred thousand police officers and lawsuit happy lawyers would like to know about it.

"If you cannot be arrested indefinitely without being charged, then neither can you be detained indefinitely without being “arrested”."

Both are correct. The circumstances of each individual case will determine when it has been excessive.

"they simply treat everyone they encounter as a known felon "

I didn't do my job that way. But that was just me.

[OneWingedShark]

Being detained in handcuffs, wile being told that you are “not under arrest”, is the definition of a habeas corpus violation.

Habeus Corpus was suspended via the latest NDAA.