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To: JCBreckenridge
Libertarians hate social conservatives more than they hate statism. We see it over and over again.

Has it ever occurred to you that the reason libertarians hate you more than they hate statism is because the way you treat them? Are you so sure it is because of policy disagreements, or is it because you are such an ass?

They always side with the statists.

I doubt that. As an example, I'll use the recent vote in the House to defund the NSA's indiscriminate data collection. It was authored by Justin Amash, considered one of the "libertarian Republicans" in the House. Do you think warrantless collection of vast amounts of data on people not suspected of any crime isn't "statist"?

In all fairness, the leadership of both parties, and Obama, came out against the bill, and in the end enough of the "establishment" politicians from both parties voted against it to kill it. So, it was really a "bipartisan" defeat.

94 posted on 08/03/2013 9:02:35 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: justlurking

“Has it ever occurred to you that the reason libertarians hate you more than they hate statism”

Thank you for confirming my point. It has been said, “Libertarians hate statism more than they hate conservativism.”

Now, we have proof this is not so.

It has been said, “we cannot win without them”.

Now, again, we have proof that this is not so.

Insofar as libertarians hate conservativism more than they hate statism, we shall see statism prevail.

It is not the duty of conservatives to abandon core conservative principles in order to woo libertarians. It is the duty of libertarians to finally abandon statism.

“Are you so sure it is because of policy disagreements”

Nope. It’s because of prejudice. Pure and simple. Calling conservatives on a conservative site, ‘supporters of sharia’, when they defend protecting the borders is plain prejudice. Pure and simple.

Libertarians say they hate statism but they don’t, not really. They are willing to side with statism because they hate them less than social conservatives.


101 posted on 08/03/2013 9:09:12 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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