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To: allendale

Apparently Rand Paul acolytes equate conservativism with libertinism. The two are not the same.


3 posted on 08/03/2013 6:47:25 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: JCBreckenridge

“Apparently Rand Paul acolytes equate conservativism with libertinism. The two are not the same.”

Apparently some “conservatives” conflate “liberty” with “authoritarian big government”.

It’s a shame.

Libertarians want to return to roughly 1870 A.D. type laws, which is about as “conservative” as it gets.


7 posted on 08/03/2013 7:02:19 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: JCBreckenridge

You seem to be using a one-dimensional model of political ideologies. A left-right spectrum does not even begin to represent reality. There are a great many two (and three) dimensional models on-line (you can look them up). While some are wrong, most are a much better than the one-dimensional spectrum. For instance, libertarianism extends from conservative to socialist, on the economic policy axis. IOW, there are conservative libertarians (or libertarian conservatives, if you prefer).


40 posted on 08/03/2013 8:02:33 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: JCBreckenridge

Reagan’s view on libertarians:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg0Axyvlkm0&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DDg0Axyvlkm0


44 posted on 08/03/2013 8:04:52 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: JCBreckenridge; justlurking
JC: Apparently Rand Paul acolytes equate conservatism with libertarianism. The two are not the same.

Very true, they are not the same. But in many ways they are allied schools of thought.

JL: I don’t think it’s a very good idea to make fun of people that are your only chance to build a winning coalition against the left.

Bingo. You don't often see union members mocking environmentalists. Liberals pull together when it matters. Conservatives, not so much. Unless another Reagan appears, I'd don't think there will be another Republican president.

48 posted on 08/03/2013 8:10:13 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: JCBreckenridge
Apparently Rand Paul acolytes equate conservativism with libertinism. The two are not the same.

Um, Rand Paul is no libertine.

74 posted on 08/03/2013 8:44:55 AM PDT by BfloGuy (Keynesians take the stand that the best way to sober up is more booze.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Apparently some feckless morons equate libratrianism with libertinism...

The two are not the same...


244 posted on 08/03/2013 3:49:00 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

YOu are playing with words here, I expected better of you. libertarians are not libertines. Stop playing games.

libertinism Definition of LIBERTINE
usually disparaging : a freethinker especially in religious matters or: a person who is unrestrained by convention or morality; specifically : one leading a dissolute life

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libertarianism
Definition of lib·er·tar·i·an
an advocate of the doctrine of free will or a : a person who upholds the principles of individual liberty especially of thought and action Or capitalized : a member of a political party advocating libertarian principles

I will tell you that after years of trying to make Republican conservatism work I am really looking forward to connecting with libertarianism. It works for me and I am happy to extend a hand across the aisle to people on the other side who are just as tired of this military adventuring and loss of freedoms at home.

Frankly if the Republicans have lost me, Chickensoup, they are in trouble, for I am so average in so many ways. I was their base.


274 posted on 08/03/2013 4:29:29 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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