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To: Carry_Okie

But you must admit that when a you have a majority of inner city black students in your class, you can just about guarantee that the job of teaching becomes about 500% harder.


14 posted on 08/01/2013 6:56:31 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; Carry_Okie

If physical punishment was allowed in schools, and if the more violent disruptors were thrown out completely, the schools would improve. It isn’t black/white, but racists (often black, almost always liberal) who tolerate subhuman behavior from some black students.

I have relatives who taught blacks in South Africa. They LOVED teaching there - students who wanted to learn, and parents who wanted their kids to do well. It was a very poor school, and the few textbooks needed to be shared, but it worked extremely well - and with all black students and parents. It is the ‘make excuses for blacks’ and the entitlement culture of black and white liberals that is destroying black America.

In working with horses, there is a rule that says, “The least you demand is the best you will get”. It applies to humans, too.


27 posted on 08/01/2013 7:14:51 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
But you must admit that when a you have a majority of inner city black students in your class, you can just about guarantee that the job of teaching becomes about 500% harder.

Here where I live it is an upper crust neighborhood above Silicon Valley. The kindergarteners test in the 98th percentile. By the time the primary school is done with them (complete with lots of extra taxes) they're down in the 80s. It's the methods taught in teachers' colleges (among MANY other things).

I had my two girls doing second year high school algebra at the ages of 9 & 10. It's not that hard.

28 posted on 08/01/2013 7:17:49 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indentured constituency for 150 years.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; Carry_Okie
The social experiment of twelfth grade for everyone (never mind about college for everyone!) is a disaster. Like all publicly-funded experiments, failure does not lead to reconsideration, it leads to more spending.

This experiment was already well under way to failure, considering whites only, prior to 1954. However, the addition of blacks, with the null hypothesis that they would achieve the same outcomes as whites absent "racism", has caused systemwide collapse, and for several reasons.

First and foremost, the lies. Teachers are taught by being systematically lied to about what can be achieved. This has now gone on for at least three generations of teachers (FYI, my grandmother taught in NYC Public for 50 years, went to normal school in 1911, and did not subscribe to ANY lies about human nature). In order to maintain their (not-so-shabby) pay and benefits, they must keep lying.

Second, the torment that students with an average IQ of 85 are put through. The requirements for success in a real academic high school are beyond anyone with an IQ of 85 (and half of the "urban" HS population is BELOW 85). So, they are forced to sit through failure, patronization, and now are fed lies about victimization. The boys get angry, the girls get sad. So, as always given that, the boys get violent, the girls get pregnant.

Third, the COMPARISON that students of differing abilities now must endure. This was a problem even in my all-white high school, where we had a whole crew of IQ 85 and below whites who were not, shall we say, kindly disposed to the IQ 120+ group of about equal size. BUT, that crew did not have victimization theory to draw on, and the cops and the school administrators could repress the hell out of them without worrying about phony charges of "racism".

What cannot go on, won't. But the end of the status quo is going, I'm afraid, to be a horror.

29 posted on 08/01/2013 7:18:57 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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