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Was Benghazi Survivor David Ubben GRS or DSS?
July 31, 2013 | Katechon

Posted on 07/31/2013 6:33:38 PM PDT by Katechon

CIA’s Global Response Staff (GRS)
Part of the expansion of the CIA’s paramilitary capabilities, GRS units are *secret* security forces created after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

Ty Woods and Glen Doherty were both members of the CIA’s GRS, an organization that has recruited hundreds of former U.S. Special Forces operatives and veterans of police department SWAT teams to serve as armed guards to provide a layer of security for CIA officers in high-risk outposts, whose counterterrorism assignments carry a level of risk.

Was David Ubben working for the GRS as a contractor ??


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
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Fyi


21 posted on 07/31/2013 7:49:20 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then)
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To: hoosiermama
A key element here is what happened with the al-Entisar in Turkey, 5 days before the attack. That looks to me as the actual reason of the meeting between Stevens and the Turk.
Al-Entisar
Al-Entisar is a Libyan ship (which is NOW in Istanbul, Turkey !!) which was in early September 2012 by the non-governmental organization Insani Yardim Vakfi (IHH), an self-defined Islamic group.
Al-Entisar docked the Turkish port of Alexandretta, a few kilometers from the Syrian province of Idlib, which lies at the heart of civil war in Syria, a few days before the attack on Benghazi, on 6 September 2012. It allegedly carried 400 tons of cargo, including heavy weapons such as SAMs and rocket launchers.
According to the captain of the ship, a Libyan, there was a fight about these weapons, between members of the Free Syrian Army and elements associated with the Muslim Brotherhood.
The Free Syrian Army had then been fighting for a year on the ground against the Assad regime. It is she who was then providing the command structure organizing multiple bands of wars and defected military units.
Incidentally, the IHH, the Turkish Islamic NGO who was in charge of Al-Entisar, is prohibited by Israel since 2008. It worked in the service of the Muslim Brotherhood. Close to Hamas (which is a faction of the Muslim Brotherhood in Gaza) and to the Islamic regime of Erdogan, it is financed by islamic groups. It is well known that the NGO has been working for a long time to provide arms and funds to several militant factions of the Muslim Brotherhood in the Middle East.
The Muslim Brotherhood, through their links with Turkey Erdogan, tried to take control of the ship and its cargo. And a fight broke out in Alexandretta between the Brotherhood and the Free Syrian Army. Could this fight have been linked to the murder of Stevens five days later, and to the looting of the CIA Annex?
22 posted on 07/31/2013 7:54:56 PM PDT by Katechon
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To: hoosiermama
With the sources:

The Libyan-flagged vessel Al Entisar (The Victory) was on the port of Malta on August 27 2012.


According to a Fox News investigation, shipping records confirmed that the Al Entisar docked at the Turkish port of Iskenderun on September 6. Iskanderun, or 'Alexandrette' on the map below, is quite close to Idlib (where the Syrian civil war was raging then).
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Fox News reported that, according to a report by the Times of London (September 14, 2012), the Al Entisar was carrying 400 tons of cargo when it dock in Iskanderun.
Some of it was humanitarian, but also reportedly weapons, described by the report as the largest consignment of weapons headed for Syria's rebels on the frontlines.

The cargo reportedly included surface-to-air anti-aircraft missiles, rocket-propelled grenades and shoulder-launched missiles.
According to Fox News, the ship's Libyan captain told the Times of London that "It was reported there was a FIGHT about the weapons and who got what between the Free Syrian Army and the Muslim Brotherhood."




23 posted on 07/31/2013 8:07:02 PM PDT by Katechon
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To: Katechon

Erratum: The Libyan-flagged vessel Al Entisar (The Victory) was on the port of Malta on August 27 2011*, not 2012.


24 posted on 07/31/2013 8:08:07 PM PDT by Katechon
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To: Katechon

Bookmarking for reference.


25 posted on 07/31/2013 8:11:13 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Katechon

The first thing that came to mind was the old line “follow the money”
If the ship with arms on board was being delivered isn’t it logical that money passed hands somewhere/ within a reasonable time of the delivery.

FYI JEsse Jackson’s half brother Noah Robinson ( as in Michelle Robinson Obama) was involved in a Chicago Street gang named El Ruhk They were converted to Islam in mass by Louis F. Crimes include: Murder for hire, Drugs, Male/female prostitution and RUNNING GUNS TO LIBYA

O organized the same community that included the El Ruhk territory
Would like to know who the agents were in their initial gun running operation. It not that common a crime for even a Chicago street gang !


26 posted on 07/31/2013 8:20:59 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then)
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To: hoosiermama
Samar Srewel, who is reportedly an FSA activist who did help organizing the naval consignment of the al-Entisar, reportedly told The Times:
The Muslim Brotherhood, through its ties in Turkey, was seizing control of this ship and the cargo. This is what they do. They buy influence with their money and guns.

27 posted on 07/31/2013 8:42:52 PM PDT by Katechon
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To: hoosiermama
The U.S. mission in Benghazi was participating in running weapons from Libya to Syria via Turkey. Then something went wrong at delivery: Free Syrian Army members fought elements of the Muslim Brotherhood over an imporant cargo. Five days later, an American Ambassador is dead, and an Annexed managed by the CIA is pillaged.
Did Turkey and the Muslim Brotherhood command the Turkish diplomat and a terrorist group to help set up the assassination of Ambassador Stevens, and the subsequent looting of the CIA annex, which contained PLENTY of weapons and PLENTY of cash?

28 posted on 07/31/2013 8:46:24 PM PDT by Katechon
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To: hoosiermama
Abdelhakim Belhadj This man traveled often between Libya and Turkey before the attack. He is now the head of the Military Council of Tripoli. But he was previously very closely associated with al-Qaeda. Belhadj fought as a mujahid in Afghanistan during the 1980s, with the troops of bin Laden against the Red Army. He then founded a group of Islamic jihadists in Libya. He moved along Pakistan, Turkey, Sudan, Iraq... where he fought alongside al-Qaeda's actual leader, al-Zarqawi. Belhadj met with leaders of the Free Syrian Army in Istanbul, as well as on the Syrian-Turkish border. In fact, it is Mustafa Abdel Jalil, the interim president of Libya, who sent him there. Belhadj was part of a Libyan delegation which proposed to send not only weapons, but also Libyan fighters to Syria, in order to support the insurrection. The new Libyan authorities offered money, arms and men to the uprising against the Assad regime. After chasing Gaddafi, hundreds of Libyan young men, still filled with revolutionary fervor, are eager to overthrow the dictator next ... The CIA was also involved in this trade. CIA agents working in conjunction with the Turkish intelligence agency Millî İstihbarat Teskilati (MIT), near the Turkish-Syrian border, organized arms deliveries to rebel groups in Syria. Abdelhakim Belhadj was also involved. Belhadj, a leader of the revolutionary effort against Gaddafi and now an active agent of the Libyan government, surely had access to Qaddafi's stockpiles of weapons, and to weapons provided by the Obama regime. He was probably aware of the CIA Annex in Benghazi, of the high value of its stock. We know he has been closely linked to al-Qaeda. We also know that the group which claimed responsibility for the attack of 11 September 2012, Ansar al-Sharia, the terrorist group that plundered the stock of money and weapons to the Annex to the CIA, is a front for al-Qaeda. We also know that it is in contact with the leadership of the Free Syrian Army, the CIA, and the Turkish government.
29 posted on 07/31/2013 8:56:35 PM PDT by Katechon
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Here’s an interesting little tidbit Don’t know where to stash it so Ill drop it here for now

http://mobile.theroot.com/articles/politics/2011/03/qaddafi_ties_to_the_el_rukns_chicago_gang.html

No mention of Noah Robinson in that one

Trial etc in this one but no mention of the guns to Libya

http://articles.latimes.com/1991-09-02/news/mn-1137_1_el-rukns


30 posted on 07/31/2013 10:02:45 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then)
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To: Katechon

Nice work ! Took time to assemble this and seems complete. Got me looking for what a DSS was and that definition was also there.


31 posted on 07/31/2013 10:11:32 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Katechon

The ship and weapons were bait? Doherty, according to a FOX News report last week, hunted bad guys. And he was on one last mission to catch a particular bad guy. I may have misinterpreted what they were saying though.


32 posted on 07/31/2013 10:14:10 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: TADSLOS

bttt


33 posted on 07/31/2013 10:21:10 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: hoosiermama

Here’s how and when they were connected to Libya

http://antiganginitiative.org/gang-profile-black-p-stones

0’s Chicago house is about a mile from their headquarters

1. They were involved in terrorism just like Bill Ayres who also lived in the neighborhood Coincidence !


34 posted on 07/31/2013 10:21:24 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then)
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To: Katechon

Meant to send the above to you.


35 posted on 07/31/2013 10:28:12 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then)
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To: Katechon

Good info. Why hasn’t the USA exacted revenge YET? ....AND WHY ISN’T EVERY REPUBLICAN ASKING THAT STINKING QUESTION EVERY DAY?


36 posted on 07/31/2013 10:33:28 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Katechon
Thank you for a very interesting report. There is still so much to learn here, and I’m a little foggy about a few areas. Can you share an opinion on a couple points?

Do you see the consulate attack as a Stevens kidnapping /Blind Sheik pre-election exchange scenario, a materials raid, or both?

Was the attack on the annex an ongoing search for Stevens, retaliation for the resistance at the consulate, and/or an ongoing attempt to secure weapons stores?

Early in the reportage I recall the claim that one of the consulate security team was killed at the gate while pushing Smith out of the path of the gate breaching vehicle. Is this confirmed?

Something I am certain of, if the reports of 30 personnel at the annex are accurate, these were not administrative staff and file clerks. We are talking serious people, outnumbered maybe five to one. Anyone responsible fore denying aid, through either dereliction or design, should be lined up at the nearest wall.
37 posted on 08/01/2013 12:52:09 AM PDT by kitchen (Make plans and prepare. You'll never have trouble if you're ready for it. - TR)
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To: Katechon

Its gonna be a miracle if we get anything at all from this guy,if he hasn’t said anything by now its probably not going to happen.


38 posted on 08/01/2013 4:57:47 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Katechon

Bump for further read.


39 posted on 08/01/2013 12:04:54 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Fred Nerks; Katechon; ntnychik; onyx; potlatch
Just called our congressman and senator with David Ubben's name.

Islamic Turkey under Erdogan in league with the attackers?

Hussein and Hillary-Huma allied with Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda against Americans?

Surely the Director of Central Intelligence will get to the bottom of this?

Or is John Brennan, the Muslim convert, already at the bottom, smiling?


40 posted on 08/01/2013 12:56:01 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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