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Sen. Ted Cruz Triumphs in 2016 Presidential Straw Poll: Wins Early GOP Vote Over Walker, Paul
Washington TImes ^ | 5 minutes ago | By Matthew Patane

Posted on 07/28/2013 6:13:04 PM PDT by drewh

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To: LibFreeUSA
Not to disagree to harshly, but I really do not think the Supreme Court will ever touch this issue with a 10 foot poll. This is a POLITICAL Decision, ON PURPOSE! The power was given to the State POLITICAL SYSTEMS and the Power was given to CONGRESS to decide eligibility. The Courts will stay out of it.
Birthers are LIBERALS who support Judicial Supremacy, which is ANATHAMA to true Conservatism.
41 posted on 07/28/2013 7:17:15 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

How is someone born in Canada, with one parent in Cuba, a natural born citizen? Unless that isn’t true, I don’t see how you can claim otherwise.


42 posted on 07/28/2013 7:17:24 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: freedumb2003

At the time of his birth, Cruz met the qualifications for Citizenship at Birth.
That is ALL that is required.
Cruz is eligible to be President.


43 posted on 07/28/2013 7:19:46 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: freedumb2003

Yes, if that One Citizen parent was OLD ENOUGH to pass on automatic citizenship, based on both age and residency requirements at the time of birth.
Natural Born Citizen means Citizenship at the moment of birth and NOTHING ELSE!
We have only 2 forms of citizenship in the USA:
Natural Born
Naturalized
If you are a citizen at the moment of birth you are a natural born citizen, PERIOD!


44 posted on 07/28/2013 7:22:43 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Why don’t you do some homework on VALID legal sites, before you state nonsense?
I suggest you go to the US Department of State website and look at the Passport Application page. That Page will tell you what the rules were for various dates of birth, to obtain citizenship by birthright.
There are only TWO forms of Citizenship in the USA:
NATURAL BORN (Anyone who obtains citizenship by birthright)
Naturalized (Anyone who was not a citizen at birth but becomes a citizen through a formal Naturalization application and process)


45 posted on 07/28/2013 7:26:06 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

>>Yes, if that One Citizen parent was OLD ENOUGH to pass on automatic citizenship, based on both age and residency requirements at the time of birth.
Natural Born Citizen means Citizenship at the moment of birth and NOTHING ELSE!<<

I am good with that. His mom was 100% USA and the Father a legal resident.

A lot more than the 1st kenyan had.


46 posted on 07/28/2013 7:28:07 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Task" is a noun. "Ask" is a verb. "Disconnect" is a noun. "Data" is a plural-not collective-noun.)
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To: Kansas58

“NATURAL BORN (Anyone who obtains citizenship by birthright)
Naturalized (Anyone who was not a citizen at birth but becomes a citizen through a formal Naturalization application and process)’


I’m willing to believe you if the facts are on your side, but how is Cruz eligible to be “natural born,” obtained via “birth right,” when he is born in a different country and has only one parent who is actually from the U.S.? Does the law make room for someone not born in this country, with only one U.S. citizen parent, to yet be considered a natural born citizen?


47 posted on 07/28/2013 7:31:00 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Kansas58; All

Then kid why didnt you kick up a big fat stink when the Senate insisted on voting on the eligibility of John McCain ???


48 posted on 07/28/2013 7:35:02 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Again, go to the US Department of State Website, and look at the passport application. You will see questions about where you were born. Those born abroad are linked to information that describes the laws on Birthright Citizenship at various times in our history.
There are age requirements for the parents, or PARENT, and residency requirements.
Cruz is qualified.


49 posted on 07/28/2013 7:35:33 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Tennessee Nana; All

Birth of U.S. Citizens Abroad
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A child born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent or parents may acquire U.S. citizenship at birth if certain statutory requirements are met. The child’s parents should contact the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate to apply for a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a Citizen of the United States of America (CRBA) to document that the child is a U.S. citizen. If the U.S. embassy or consulate determines that the child acquired U.S. citizenship at birth, a consular officer will approve the CRBA application and the Department of State will issue a CRBA, also called a Form FS-240, in the child’s name.

According to U.S. law, a CRBA is proof of U.S. citizenship and may be used to obtain a U.S. passport and register for school, among other purposes.

The child’s parents may choose to apply for a U.S. passport for the child at the same time that they apply for a CRBA. Parents may also choose to apply only for a U.S. passport for the child. Like a CRBA, a full validity, unexpired U.S. passport is proof of U.S. citizenship.

Parents of a child born abroad to a U.S. citizen or citizens should apply for a CRBA and/or a U.S. passport for the child as soon as possible. Failure to promptly document a child who meets the statutory requirements for acquiring U.S. citizenship at birth may cause problems for the parents and the child when attempting to establish the child’s U.S. citizenship and eligibility for the rights and benefits of U.S. citizenship, including entry into the United States. By law, U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States.

Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. Citizen (CRBA, or Form FS-240)

If you are a U.S. citizen and have a child overseas, you should report his or her birth as soon as possible so that, if the child acquired U.S. citizenship at birth, a Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA) can be issued as an official record of his/her U.S. citizenship. Report the birth of your child abroad at the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate. Check the American Citizens Services portion of the webpage for the embassy or consulate closest to where your child was born for further instructions about how to apply for a CRBA. Please note:
•A Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. citizen is only issued to a child who acquired U.S. citizenship at birth and who is generally under the age of 18 at the time of the application.
•The U.S. embassy or consulate will provide one original copy of an eligible child’s Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. Citizen.
•A more secure Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. Citizen was introduced in January 2011. This new CRBA has been updated with a variety of state of the art security features, and is printed centrally in the United States. U.S. embassies and consulates no longer print CRBAs locally, but you still must apply there. The central production was initiated to ensure uniform quality and reduce vulnerability to fraud. The previous version of the CRBA continues to be valid proof of U.S. citizenship.
•You may replace, amend or request multiple copies of a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. Citizen at any time.
•Persons born in one of the following territories or former territories of the United States were not born abroad and, thus, would not be eligible for a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. Citizen. Such persons acquired U.S. citizenship by birth within the territorial United States and therefore, in general, would only need a birth certificate from their respective Vital Records Office to establish acquisition at birth pursuant to the 14th Amendment to the Constitution:

Puerto Rico

U.S. Virgin Islands American Samoa

Guam

Swains Island

The Panama Canal Zone before October 1, 1979

The Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands prior to 1986

The Philippines before July 4, 1946

The former U.S. Trust Territories of the Pacific Islands

Other Citizenship Documents Issued to U.S. Citizens Born Abroad

Certification of Report of Birth (DS-1350)

As of December 31, 2010, the Department of State no longer issues Certifications of Reports of Births (DS-1350). All previously issued DS-1350s are still valid for proof of identity, citizenship, and other legal purposes.

Certificate of Citizenship issued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS)

A person born abroad who acquired U.S. citizenship at birth but who is over the age of 18 (and so not eligible for a CRBA) may wish to apply for a Certificate of Citizenship to document acquisition pursuant to 8 U.S.C. 1452. Visit USCIS.gov for further information.


50 posted on 07/28/2013 7:42:19 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: GOPsterinMA; Perdogg; Impy; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj

“” Other prominent Republicans seen as potentially strong presidential candidates didn’t fare as well in the straw poll. Bringing up the rear were Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsn, former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, and Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

In 2011, little-known restaurant executive Herman Cain won the Denver summit’s first Republican presidential straw poll, “and it was an interesting forecast of a surprisingly strong run,” Mr. Andrews said. “”


51 posted on 07/28/2013 7:42:51 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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To: Kansas58

Don’t even try...they all have bubble gum machine law degrees and think they are correct.

Funny stuff.

Great to see Cruz take an early lead.


52 posted on 07/28/2013 7:43:14 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obam a's Socialist Agenda:)
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To: Kansas58

http://www.travel.state.gov/law/family_issues/birth/birth_593.html

State Department passport link.


53 posted on 07/28/2013 7:43:36 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: drewh
Yes, but is he the best Canadian born citizen for the presidency of the US?

If we have to violate the Constitution in order to save it, we're doing it wrong.

I'm glad I got to live in the country we used to be, but am sorry I lived through our losing it.

To our new owners:

You got us. We were beaten, fair and square, by a superior fool than we were and we still don't even know it yet.

Would be impressive, if we hadn't let ourselves become so pitiful. This is more like euthanasia.

54 posted on 07/28/2013 7:45:36 PM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Romans 1:18-32)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Actually the CONSTITUTION gives Congress the power to decide on eligibility -—
NOT THE COURTS!
So it was ENTIRELY appropriate for the Congress, including the Senate, to give its opinion on the McCain eligibility matter.
You will notice from my State Department link that the Panama Canal Zone is CLEARLY US Territory at the time of McCain's Birth and therefore McCain is an NBC!
55 posted on 07/28/2013 7:46:17 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

Then kid why didnt you kick up a big fat stink when the Senate insisted on voting on the eligibility of John McCain ???


56 posted on 07/28/2013 7:46:24 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

The Senate had FULL ATHORITY to vote on the eligibility of John McCain.
The COURTS do not have such authority.


57 posted on 07/28/2013 7:49:02 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“He’s my choice, but these stories mean less than nothing at this point. Zip, zero nada.”

I was at the summit. Cruz is an electrifying, thoughtful, analytic and empathetic speaker, all at the same time. We haven’t had a speaker like that since Reagan.

My wife looked at me after he finished and the first words out of her mouth were “President Cruz.”


58 posted on 07/28/2013 7:55:15 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Kansas58

“Strange that the same idiots who claim to be “Constitutional Purists” can not point to any place in the Constitution where the Courts are given the power to disqualify a Candidate for President.”

There’s no place in the Constitution that gives them the power to make final decisions on constitutional issues either.


59 posted on 07/28/2013 7:56:29 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Kansas58

You know what we need? You know how the religion forum has ‘closed’ threads? We need those. I.E. Cruz threads where you have to discuss the man, not whether you think he is NBC. Utter one birther sentence and BOUNCE!


60 posted on 07/28/2013 7:56:36 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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