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Hackers hijack software in a car and remotely control the steering, brakes and horn using a laptop
Daily Mail ^ | 25 Jul 2013 | VICTORIA WOOLLASTON

Posted on 07/25/2013 1:42:55 PM PDT by mandaladon

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To: mandaladon
My '55 chevy ain't just a hobby, folks.

CC

61 posted on 07/25/2013 2:49:03 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: Rio

I’m sure the key is just sending a signal to the powertrain controller. Which controls the ignition and fuel systems.
So really no difference if you have the “button” or a key to turn on.


62 posted on 07/25/2013 2:51:05 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: nascarnation
The steering, for example, was hacked by exploiting the Toyota and Ford's self-parking features.

Real fun when your steering is overridden.

63 posted on 07/25/2013 2:54:54 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: mandaladon

I’m taking this with a little grain of salt here.

The lights in this vehicle are analog. I don’t see how you turn them on electronically. I don’t see how you control the steering or brakes either.

Perhaps things worked different in 2010, as mine is a 2006, but I’m still shaking my head here.


64 posted on 07/25/2013 2:55:09 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kill the bill... Begin enforcing our current laws, signed by President Ronald Reagan.)
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To: roadcat

* Real fun when your steering is overridden. *

THET’S WATCHA CALL ADVENTURE DRIVIN’!


65 posted on 07/25/2013 2:55:58 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: mandaladon

BTTT


66 posted on 07/25/2013 2:56:04 PM PDT by Luigi Vasellini (End the political class.......TERM LIMITS NOW!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Navy Patriot; nascarnation

An increasing number of vehicles now use an electric power steering assist system. The most obvious purpose is as part of the “auto-parallel-park” systems, but even cars without that gadgetry have the (presumably computer-linked) electric steering hardware. It’s on-track to replace the hydraulic assist systems, at least in light-duty vehicles.


67 posted on 07/25/2013 2:56:40 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Navy Patriot

I remember back in the 60s a buddy of mine hit a pretty small tree (maybe 8 inch trunk dia) with an Olds 4-4-2. It absolutely clobbered that car and put him in the hospital.


68 posted on 07/25/2013 2:57:08 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: roadcat

LOL my 67 Camaro may be safer to drive than I ever expected....


69 posted on 07/25/2013 2:58:53 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: mandaladon

As far as I know, ignition switches are still hard wired. Just turn the key off.


70 posted on 07/25/2013 3:01:30 PM PDT by jughandle
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To: mandaladon

Oh, for the days of American muscle cars and leaded gas.


71 posted on 07/25/2013 3:02:49 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: mandaladon

Someone rear-ended my 2007 Fusion at the end of May. Finally got it into the shop today. Temporary insurance replacement? 2013 Sorento, no key, just a fob, push button start. I do not like. You have to take it out of your pocket to unlock the car, but don’t DARE forget it in the car when you get out and lock the car. A VERY silly system, if you ask me!

The idea that Big Brother can monitor/jam your car is not appealing in any way. Time to get out the bicycle and in a couple of months, get a studded bike snow tire for the winter (not kidding, they do make these)


72 posted on 07/25/2013 3:08:25 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was lost but now I'm found; blind but now I see.)
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To: MichaelCorleone
Mmmm....that means that it IS possible to cause someone’s car to ram a tree at 100 mph in the middle of the night.

Given your nic, is there an ex-wife somewhere who should be concerned? (Just askin'...)

73 posted on 07/25/2013 3:11:16 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: MarineBrat

I usually did the distributor rotor at the same time, and took a hard look at the distributor cap as well.

I still have a timing light buried in the big garage toolbox. And feeler gauges, etc.


74 posted on 07/25/2013 3:13:46 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Charles Martel
An increasing number of vehicles now use an electric power steering assist system. The most obvious purpose is as part of the “auto-parallel-park” systems, but even cars without that gadgetry have the (presumably computer-linked) electric steering hardware. It’s on-track to replace the hydraulic assist systems, at least in light-duty vehicles.

That is correct.

As I understand it, these auto park systems have a safety system that prevents injury to drivers that accidentally obstruct the steering wheel during the auto park sequence.

This should make an average driver able to overpower the power assist system by preventing the wheel from turning in the assist direction, however, but, depending on HOW the safety system works (electronic or mechanical force limitation), I cannot assert that a driver could maintain control.

I know of no hydraulic assist systems with an electronic control valve, fortunately, because no one could overpower a hydraulic system.

75 posted on 07/25/2013 3:14:57 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Charles Martel
Look under the dash of a 2009 or newer Corolla. There is a computer controlled electric motor about 9" in diameter. It is the power steering. All the newer hybrids and most high end cars have electric steering racks.

Anything on the CAN bus is hackable. I have seen 54 onboard computers on the CAN bus (Lexus LS 460). Imagine the power seat moving foreword and up while the tilt and telescope steering column moves back and down for example.

76 posted on 07/25/2013 3:15:06 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: mandaladon
Cash for clunkers program resulted in destroying of older cars with no ability to to over ride the driver, took them out of the market.
77 posted on 07/25/2013 3:20:18 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: nascarnation; Rio

>>The steering on all cars is a mechanical linkage.

Not so.

While “vast majority” would be true, cars with electric steering are being developed and hitting the road in numbers shortly.

Nissan Develops Fully Electric Steer-By-Wire System, Will Go On Sale Next Year
http://blog.caranddriver.com/nissan-develops-fully-electric-steer-by-wire-system-will-go-on-sale-next-year/


78 posted on 07/25/2013 3:21:29 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Navy Patriot

See my previous post.


79 posted on 07/25/2013 3:25:20 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: jughandle

Lots of cars have keyless ignition these days. Just have the fob in your pocket and push the start/stop button.


80 posted on 07/25/2013 3:27:07 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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