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Feds eye new regs on menthol cigarettes
The Hill ^ | July 23, 2013 | Julian Hattem

Posted on 07/24/2013 5:14:52 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Federal regulators are looking at menthol cigarettes for possible new regulations, arguing that the products raise "critical" health concerns.

The Food and Drug Administration announced on Tuesday that it was beginning the process of regulating the variety of flavored cigarettes by gathering comments from the public.

“Menthol cigarettes raise critical public health questions,” said FDA Commissioner Margaret Hamburg in a statement. “The FDA is committed to a science-based approach that addresses the public health issues raised by menthol cigarettes, and public input will help us make more informed decisions about how best to tackle this important issue moving forward.”

Among the scientific data that the FDA is releasing for the public to consider is an evaluation of the health effects of menthol versus regular cigarettes. That study found that the cigarettes could make it easier for people to begin smoking, which poses a greater risk.

“While there is little evidence to suggest that menthol cigarettes are more or less toxic or contribute to more disease risk to the user than nonmenthol cigarettes, adequate data suggest that menthol use is likely associated with increased smoking initiation by youth and young adults,” the report found. “Further, the data indicate that menthol in cigarettes is likely associated with greater addiction.”

The report concludes that the data “make it likely that menthol cigarettes pose a public health risk above that seen with nonmenthol cigarettes.”

Tuesday’s announcement reflects the FDA’s “commitment to explore all potential options,” said Mitch Zeller, head of the agency’s tobacco office.

Rep. Henry Waxman (Calif.), the top Democrat on the Energy and Commerce Committee, cheered the announcement as “an important next step in addressing the use of menthol in cigarettes.”

“I am pleased that the FDA is now taking this long overdue measure,” he said in a statement. ”I urge its leadership to act swiftly to make a science-based decision on this critical public health concern.”

The FDA was given authority to regulate cigarettes by a 2009 law that ordered it to study the effect of menthol cigarettes.

Tobacco is the leading cause of preventable death and disease in the U.S., and about a quarter of all cigarettes sold in the country are menthols.

The public will have 60 days to comment on the agency’s notice.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fda; menthols; nannystate; smokers

1 posted on 07/24/2013 5:14:52 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; Alia; altura; ...
Feds eye new regs on menthol cigarettes

Nanny State PING!

2 posted on 07/24/2013 5:15:46 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I don't always vote, but when I do, I SURE AS HELL DON'T VOTE DEMOCRAT!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A homosexual lifestyle is much more unhealthy than a heterosexual lifestyle.

Why does not the government regulate it?


3 posted on 07/24/2013 5:20:11 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2banana

There are menthol condoms, and menthol “personal” lube — will they be regulated?


4 posted on 07/24/2013 5:23:47 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Menthol cigarettes are purchased disproportionately by African-American smokers, with 80% of African-American smokers consuming menthol cigarettes primarily.
5 posted on 07/24/2013 5:25:19 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Yikes the man taking away a brothers smoke? That ain’t right!

/s?


6 posted on 07/24/2013 5:26:51 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

More regulations = More Taxes.


7 posted on 07/24/2013 5:26:59 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Is it racist of me to say most black people who smoke menthol cigarettes choose KOOL? The other, Newport causes crystals to form in the lungs from the menthol. That added to the tar really kills the lungs. And them. And you.


8 posted on 07/24/2013 5:32:46 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: ColdOne
The problem is that the bill exempts mentholated cigarettes from FDA oversight.
9 posted on 07/24/2013 5:34:06 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Dang, you beat me to it! LOL


10 posted on 07/24/2013 5:35:51 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If they are taking a science based decision why are they asking the public what to do.

The public hasn’t got access to science’s answer.
Science is mostly guessing anyway

Science hated salt and loved Fish oil until last week.


11 posted on 07/24/2013 5:40:02 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Ping.


12 posted on 07/24/2013 5:58:34 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Well, I've smoked cigarettes for the last 50 years and don't intend to stop.

Never smoked the menthols, but it's pretty apparent to me that the feds want to just suck all the joy out of life.

I have gotten to the point that I really don't care what these autocrats do anymore. Pretty soon, they will run out of people who even care about their B.S.

13 posted on 07/24/2013 6:03:11 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: 2banana
why? toooo many fags in the government...
14 posted on 07/24/2013 6:04:34 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: SkyDancer

Something else to think about, these are not the
menthol cigs from years ago.
I heard some clerks talking about them and they use
some kind of capsule that is broken to release the
menthol, they had a name for them but I don’t recall
what it was.
I quit 35 years ago.


15 posted on 07/24/2013 6:09:36 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SkyDancer

Never tried a newport, but I know people who have noted it’s a high brow cigarette. It just got marketed well to the black consumers who now buy it above just about any other brand.

Evidently, the Tobacco is of a better quality in a Newport. A few months ago, I could have told you more, but I don’t keep up with it anymore (because I’d probably want to smoke again).

I did have a cigar last weekend, and it was so nice, and yet, I felt bad about doing it. Too much peer pressure to forsake tobacco completely. They make me feel guilty for possibly taking myself away from them.

I still support folks smoking if they want. But I have better things planned to draw the land in sand about personal bad habits :)

I still love the smell of NC Tobacco curing. Wish I could bottle that smell!


16 posted on 07/24/2013 6:21:41 PM PDT by Aqua225 (Realist)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Bet a whole lot of black folks are having second thoughts about voting for Obama now!


17 posted on 07/24/2013 6:22:05 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I thought that black criminals were the leading cause of preventable death in the U.S.
18 posted on 07/24/2013 6:24:21 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama lies, smokes, blasphemes, eats pork, reads your mail, eavesdrops and drinks during Ramadan)
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To: bigheadfred

Kool! /sarc on


19 posted on 07/24/2013 7:13:41 PM PDT by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: SkyDancer
Oddly enough SkyDancer, I prefer to smoke SkyDancer Menthol Gold 100s.
(I am mostly caucasion)
And it may not be racist,exactly, but it may not be factual to claim “most menthol smokers who are black” choose the brands KOOL or Newport.

Do you have a current scientific study to back that claim up?

My “study” isn't scientific, but merely my own observation of other smokers brand choices, and what is being stocked and sold locally.
$3.74 a pack beats the over $6.00 single pack price for certain old, established menthol brands, such as KOOL and Newport.

20 posted on 07/24/2013 8:04:35 PM PDT by sarasmom (The obvious takes longer to discover for the obtuse.)
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To: sarasmom

No study on KooL cigarettes but every black person I know that smokes, smokes Kool’s and so do their friends. I’m talking maybe twenty or so.. but now what with the price per pack I’m sure everyone that smokes looks for the cheapest.


21 posted on 07/24/2013 8:25:43 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Why do they bother with the public comments? The decision has already been made.


22 posted on 07/24/2013 8:36:20 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If global warming exists I hope it is strong enough to reverse the Big Government snowball)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Feds eye new regs on menthol cigarettes

Wait -- what will Holder's people say?

23 posted on 07/24/2013 8:47:29 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: SkyDancer
8 ... The other, Newport causes crystals to form in the lungs from the menthol.

Old wive's tales sure die hard. It's the same chemical used in peppermint candies for the cooling sensation. Depending on its particular isomeric structure, its melting point is just below 98.6 F. Oh, also slightly soluble in water. So crystallization in the lungs is bogus. In the food industry it is recognized by the FDA as GRAS - generally recognized as safe.

24 posted on 07/24/2013 9:17:22 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: Aqua225
16 ... Evidently, the Tobacco is of a better quality in a Newport.

Highly doubtful. The menthol really covers up a lot of the tobacco taste. All of the tobacco companies are stretching their resources these days to use as much low-cost ingredients, including tobacco, as possible.

25 posted on 07/24/2013 9:20:08 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


26 posted on 07/24/2013 9:24:11 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: tet68
15 Something else to think about, these are not the menthol cigs from years ago. I heard some clerks talking about them and they use some kind of capsule that is broken to release the menthol, they had a name for them but I don’t recall what it was. ...

Most likely a spray encapsulation of the menthol that melts as the ember approaches it releasing the menthol for vaporization. Old technology. Could do the same in the filter - just squeeze the filter to burst the encapsulated beads to release menthol. Encapsulation compound would be a lipid, wax, or polysaccharide. There is nothing new under the sun.

27 posted on 07/24/2013 9:25:17 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: SkyDancer

ROTFLMAO!

Please consider refraining from posting ignorant comments on cigarette smoking related topics, other than the government approved PC comment that “smoking is bad for your health”.

It will potentially increase your overall credibility on other topics.


28 posted on 07/24/2013 10:09:13 PM PDT by sarasmom (The obvious takes longer to discover for the obtuse.)
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To: MacNaughton

My favorite cigarette was relatively cheap, it was Marlboro Black & Red or Black & Green. I thought it had the most tobacco flavor of those I tried (I also rolled my own with Natural American Spirit Dark Blue, and they were slightly better than the NAS-DB IMO).

I also liked Marlboro Southern Cuts, but they were obviously laced with a topping to generate their powerful Vanilla scent.


29 posted on 07/24/2013 11:32:02 PM PDT by Aqua225 (Realist)
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To: tet68

Camel has a type called the ‘Crush’ that has a crushable menthol capsule in the filter. There may be other brands as well.


30 posted on 07/24/2013 11:53:41 PM PDT by Bob
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To: 2banana

Queer politics trumped the public health science with homowoods support.


32 posted on 07/25/2013 3:42:17 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Tobacco Diet is the leading cause of preventable death and disease in the U.S
33 posted on 07/25/2013 3:49:50 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: listenhillary

I love terminology like “preventable death.” Ultimately, no one’s death is preventable; every one gets his ticket punched eventually.


34 posted on 07/25/2013 4:14:57 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I don't always vote, but when I do, I SURE AS HELL DON'T VOTE DEMOCRAT!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Tobacco is the leading cause of preventable death and disease in the U.S., “

Complete and utter BS.


35 posted on 07/25/2013 7:53:42 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: sarasmom
Well considering the mind boggling goofs that Obamalamadingdong made during his last "Unicorn's and Rainbows" speech I can stick by my conclusions - either that, or I can use the magic eight ball the MSM uses to get their stats. Then too, there are many mistaken conclusions by other FReepers as well.

However there is this:

The Kool brand capitalized off this new culture of "coolness" in African American culture that evolved from the Davis' jazz movement. They drew upon the idea of "coolness" to define their brand, Kool. It was then associated with a very positive, glamorous self-image which embodied the idea of cool found in jazz. This attempt was evident in their first tagline: "To be cool you smoke Kool". Later, they further infused the idea of cool and glamorous with the line, "Smoking a Kool? Like riding a Rolls Royce". B&W used Kool to substantiate the idea of a cool lifestyle. Kool was freshness, cold, but more importantly, Kool was cool.

36 posted on 07/25/2013 8:28:03 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Aqua225
29 My favorite cigarette was relatively cheap, it was Marlboro Black & Red or Black & Green. I thought it had the most tobacco flavor of those I tried (I also rolled my own with Natural American Spirit Dark Blue, and they were slightly better than the NAS-DB IMO). I also liked Marlboro Southern Cuts, but they were obviously laced with a topping to generate their powerful Vanilla scent.

The tobacco companies have been using expanded/puffed tobacco and reconstituted/paper tobacco for 50+ years to reduce their costs. Also, they have been increasing the content of foreign tobaccos, which generally are cheaper than U.S. grown tobacco. To cover up these tastes, they use various flavor chemicals, e.g., vanillin, licorice, various sugars, etcs. They have been reducing the number of these chemicals for 20+ years in anticipation of future restrictions by the FTC. 29

37 posted on 07/25/2013 10:22:01 AM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: MacNaughton

I only smoked for a few months, and it was fun, except for the cough and constant sinus problems.

I use e-juice now. Good nicotine, doesn’t kill my sinuses and easier on me than caffeine for similar effect.


38 posted on 07/25/2013 3:33:39 PM PDT by Aqua225 (Realist)
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To: elkfersupper

Elk, You are old and wise enough to know that it’s not personal it’s all about the money.

To protect their profits the US government exempted domestic cigarette manufacturers from the flavor ban. They still allow menthol. I used to love my Salem menthols when I was 18. Then I switched to regulars. Now I just use ecigs.

But The whole thing is so disgusting I stopped paying attention. I couldn’t take it anymore it was so hideous. Was like living with rats in a sewer.

http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2013/08/indonesia-to-seek-compensation-for-lost.html?m=1

Indonesia to Seek Compensation for Lost Sales Due to U.S. Clove Cigarettes Ban
According to an article in the Jakarta Globe, Indonesia will seek compensation from the United States for sales losses due to its ban on clove cigarettes, which was found to be a discriminatory trade practice without health justification by the World Trade Organization.

According to the article: “Indonesia will seek compensation from the United States for pulling its clove cigarettes from shelves despite a World Trade Organization (WTO) ruling that deemed the ban discriminatory. Indonesia’s trade ministry said it had lost between $200 million and $300 million annually from the 2009 ban, aimed at helping prevent youths from taking up smoking. The WTO found that the US had flouted trade rules in its health act — under which cinnamon, coffee, grape and strawberry-flavored cigarettes were also banned — because it allowed menthol-laced tobacco to stay on the market. The WTO found in favor of Indonesia’s claims that allowing domestically made menthol cigarettes and not its clove-laced cigarettes was discriminatory. ...

“It’s baffling how the US, which is always demanding other countries to abide by WTO disciplines and regulations, is now unable to correct its policy, which is clearly in violation of WTO provisions,” Pambagyo [trade ministry director general of international trade cooperation] said in a statement.”

The Rest of the Story

The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act’s ban on the sale of clove cigarettes is clearly a discriminatory trade practice, as it treats one flavoring - which is primarily manufactured outside the U.S. - differently than a like product (menthol cigarettes) that is domestically produced. Moreover, the reason for the exemption given to menthol cigarettes was specifically to protect domestic cigarette companies that sell menthol cigarettes. And the icing on the cake is that the flavorings ban advances no public health purpose because it exempts specifically those cigarettes which are actually smoked by youth, and the ban doesn’t apply to any cigarette brand that had any substantial market share among youth smokers prior to the implementation of the policy.

Given that the U.S. has failed to respond definitively to the WTO’s decision, it certainly seems to this observer that Indonesia is entitled to some compensation.

But I guess $200 to $300 million is a small price to pay to protect the annual sale of 62 billion menthol cigarettes in the U.S.

While it is understandable why politicians wanted to protect this domestic revenue, it is not clear why the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids, American Cancer Society, American Heart Association, and American Lung Association lobbied so vigorously to protect the cigarette companies’ domestic revenue, at the expense of a higher burden of disease and death among their so-called constituents.


39 posted on 08/03/2013 5:35:53 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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