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Day 21 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 9, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/09/2013 4:51:37 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

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To: veteranzd

I am guessing that Federal charges for “denial of civil rights” will be difficult.
I was once SUED by George Tiller for “denial of civil rights” of others.
The Supreme Court ruled in a related case that private individuals do not have the ability to violate civil rights of others, Only a government official can deny or violate rights under our Constitution.
Where rights are concerned, they must be “violated under color of law”.
I do not think that George Zimmerman, as Neighborhood Watch volunteer, qualifies as a government official.


841 posted on 07/09/2013 10:17:35 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: sheikdetailfeather

>> I liked how this witness said there could be othr injuries on GZ’s head which do not show.

They did a great job of shining light on the injuries Z already got. I’d like to see them tie it in more securely to the injuries that Z FEARED he MIGHT get.

Self defense doctrine in Florida stipulates fear of “great bodily injury” before the use of “deadly force” (gun) is OK.

DiMaio gave O’Mara and West all the ammo they needed, IMO, with the great discussion of head injuries, particularly closed head injury. Now MOM/DW need to indelibly write the link in the minds of the jurors.

just my 2c


842 posted on 07/09/2013 10:17:50 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: dragnet2; moehoward
The desire for the jury to give something to TM's mother will be very hard to overcome. Why because this is an all female jury Irregardless of the truth and evidence?
Why does she deserve anything at Zimmerman expense?

If I was in that jury, I would now KNOW that TM moms LIED under oath, through both testimonies and common sense. She gets no sympathy from me.

843 posted on 07/09/2013 10:18:01 AM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

I wonder how many abrasions, bruising is left on the punchers knuckles?....Seriously, not bragging as the winner of many bar fights (on duty), if you don’t “teeth” the opponent or hit him on the top of head, none. Or miss and hit the sidewalk.


844 posted on 07/09/2013 10:18:18 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: dragnet2
TM mother already received a reported $1M payout from the HOA ins co but she and the scheme team want lots more...regardless of the facts. Sorry for her loss but she should not get another dime and she can blame her son for that.
845 posted on 07/09/2013 10:18:55 AM PDT by JPG (Obama Does Egypt.)
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To: Solson
How the heck could they reasonably object to his CV? That is insane.
846 posted on 07/09/2013 10:19:24 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: XenaLee

It is SAD! Clients call; goes to VM. Emails go unanswered for hours/days(?), husband, children starving.


847 posted on 07/09/2013 10:19:40 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: Cyber Liberty

When gunshot wounds mentioned TM’s mom makes a big show of exiting the court room.
Does anybody here think that made a good impression on the Jury?


No.

I think they realize it’s all drama , and done to cause them to think they
would be “ disrespecting” her by not realizing how much pain this causes
her....

She and TM will do anything to get “ justice”


848 posted on 07/09/2013 10:20:01 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Fawn

It’s why she’s moving around so much...She’s trying to grab attention for her little show.

It’s all staged BS..


849 posted on 07/09/2013 10:20:33 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Cyber Liberty

She also left the other day when Mr Donnelly (Vietnam medic & GZ friend) was speaking. Made a big show of it- she and her attorney, I think - I saw it it was crass.


850 posted on 07/09/2013 10:21:11 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: GRRRRR
Expert witnesses are always compensated for their time.

Hopefully the attorney's wife on the jury will make sure they know this!!

851 posted on 07/09/2013 10:21:49 AM PDT by Momto2 (I am praying for Israel...)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Does anybody here think that made a good impression on the Jury?

Yeah....I would be thinking she can't handle the truth.

852 posted on 07/09/2013 10:22:34 AM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: Safetgiver

Thank you for giving me an answer. Experience always help in gaining clarity!


853 posted on 07/09/2013 10:22:43 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: JPG

She probably spent all of that by now.


854 posted on 07/09/2013 10:22:56 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

It is a good way to draw attention away from great defense witnesses. It is also transparent. I hope the jury can see what is going on.


855 posted on 07/09/2013 10:23:11 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

I am not on the jury but I gotta tell you. I would be wondering why there aren’t any character witnesses for Trayvon. Teachers, coaches, school records, neighbors, pastors, friends could tell me a little more about this boy than skittles. The lack of this info is a pretty big matzo ball hanging out there and would make me very skeptical.


856 posted on 07/09/2013 10:24:04 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Toespi

No. That’s why it’s not in quotes. But she used a term equal in meaning.


857 posted on 07/09/2013 10:24:39 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Cyber Liberty

>> Does anybody here think that made a good impression on the Jury?

Well, to be fair to TrayMom, when you need a toot, you need a toot. And after that judgment, she can afford the good $tuff... the kind Hollywood uses, not that five bucks a rock ghetto kind. But when it wears off, the pull is strong...

I wouldn’t expect that particular jury to understand though.


858 posted on 07/09/2013 10:25:35 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Safetgiver

Not just the knuckles. In MMA and fighting, hitting with the bottom part of the fist is also quite effective.


859 posted on 07/09/2013 10:25:42 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: bonfire

Someone is floating around the net that Sybrina GAVE that HOA settlement to charity. Not sure if that is true. I have no desire to look it up, just curious if anyone had heard/read the same.


860 posted on 07/09/2013 10:25:43 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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