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I just don't know how this ends well. I don't trust "conservatives" at all, after Rubio and Ryan are showing that they don't really care about stopping the invasion. And Sara Palin? I want to believe, but she has yet to renounce her support of McCain.

It's naive to think that conservatives can do it without bringing in some of the fed-up element from dems and independents.

We lost it when Boehner caved and let the federal debt increase. As far as I can see now, it's a matter of survival. That's a huge reason why getting as many invaders out of the US, and keeping them out, is crucial.

When I talk about some sort of working with libertarians, it's because I'm (fingers crossed) hopeful that Rand Paul can do something positive, especially now that he seems a bit more cognizant of conservative issues.

Renounce her support of McCain? What are you talking about, Sarah Palin is out there supporting McCain on what issues?

Libertarians are at war with their top enemy, social conservatives, if America loses the fight to remain America, and God-fearing, and conservative, then does it really matter what is left?

I just don't know how this ends well. I don't trust "conservatives" at all, after Rubio and Ryan are showing that they don't really care about stopping the invasion. And Sara Palin? I want to believe, but she has yet to renounce her support of McCain.

First of all, as the Bible states, you judge a tree by it's fruit.

By that definition, neither Rubio or Ryan are "conservative".

They may have been conservatives at one time, judging by their actions, but no matter what they call themselves, or anyone else for that matter, they are not conservatives.

So that talking point of yours is moot.

Secondly, this Amnesty issue is the issue that defines McCain, and Governor Palin has come out squarely against it.

Short of calling McCain names, I'm not sure what you are looking for in terms of renouncing.

Finally, you bring up Rand Paul who has is own Amnesty Proposal of granting 2 million Illegal Aliens Amnesty each and every year based on the "certification" of a Pro-Amnesty Congress that the border is secure.

Once again, you judge a tree by it's fruit.