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Paul Ryan Leading House for 'Amnesty' Deal
NewsMax ^ | June 29, 2013

Posted on 06/29/2013 1:41:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Paul Ryan, the Republican congressman and former vice-presidential candidate best known for his war on spending, is emerging as his party's leading champion of immigration reform in the U.S. House of Representatives.

With Senate passage of a sweeping immigration bill imminent, Ryan has been meeting with House conservatives to persuade them that reform of the immigration system, including a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, is an economic necessity and critical to fixing the nation's fiscal problems.

Ryan, a potential 2016 presidential contender, sees himself as a "bridge builder" between immigration advocacy groups and reluctant Republicans, he said in an interview with Reuters.

He argues that the immigration system is broken and must be overhauled. "It doesn't work for national security. It doesn't work for economic security," Ryan said.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; enforcecurrentlaws; globalist; gopestablishment; loadurgunsboys; nobill; northamericanunion; paulrino; paulryan; rino; ryan; stealingjobscitizens; traitor; un; wisconsin
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The Young & Dumb Republicans.


81 posted on 06/29/2013 3:43:22 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: RginTN

Not only did this scumbag Ryan use the term “undocumented immigrants”....

Long before Romney picked him for VP, Ryan voted for TARP, expressed a desire for “means testing” for social security (in other words, changing the rules many years after you were forced to pay into that giant Ponzi scheme), and he expressed support for adoption of children by homosexual couples.

To hell with this guy.


82 posted on 06/29/2013 3:47:31 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a chain of convenience stores.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

He also voted for ndaa


83 posted on 06/29/2013 3:51:46 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave ofo attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: shalom aleichem

Ryan is dong this with gutless Boehner’s blessing.

I don't think so! http://www.speaker.gov/video/boehner-real-border-security-support-republican-majority-needed-immigration-reform

84 posted on 06/29/2013 3:52:45 PM PDT by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Sure glad this sob isn’t VP with aspirations for P!


85 posted on 06/29/2013 3:56:35 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Find it strange when the excuse is being given that while the government knows whats going on in 300 million citizens lives but because the illegals are not citizens and in “the shadows” according to Florida’s Senator Rubio the US doesn’t know who they are or where they’re comming from so we must make them citizens..

THE QUESTION IS SENATORS HOW COULD YOU PASS A 1200 PAGE BILL YOU HAVEN’T READ... THAT HAS A FINE OF $5000 FOR ANY EMPLOYER WHO HIRES A CITIZEN OVER AN ILLEGAL ...WHY ARE YOU SO SET ON IMPORTING LOW WAGE LABORERS MAINLY FROM ONE COUNTRY WHICH TAKE UP JOBS OUR YOUTH AND ESPECIALLY BLACKS COULD BE PERFORMING ? AND HOW CAN HOUSE MEMBERS PASS ANY KIND OF LEGISLATION WHEN THEY KNOW THIS AND THE BORDER WILL REMAIN UNSECURE ONCE ITS GETS OUT OF CONFERENCE ?

FR’s ; are urged to visit their respective Congressional Representatives and let them know their feelings

WHEN IT COMES TO AMNESTY

THIS IS THE MEXICAN PART NO ONE DARES MENTION

If you agree with the above and the following please don’t let it lay here in FR-land. Pass it on to to your favorite talk show host and to your US legislators. PUSH THE HASTERT RULE.

ONE NATIONALITY AMNESTY SKEWS QUOTAS. HURTS OTHERS FROM SOUTH AMERICA, AND SKILLED LABOR QUOTAS FROM OTHER NATIONS ...WORSE YET OFFERING AMNESTY FOR NATIONALS FROM A COUNTRY THAT HAS CLAIMS ON OUR NATIONAL TERRITORY THAT COULD AND HAS TURNED INTO PROBLEMS FOR BORDER STATES CLAIMED BY MEXICO .

In that May 3rd speech Obama gave before the Mexican Anthropological Museum in which he blamed America for the violence in Mexico I believe he went even futhur. There’s a inference but never referenced by name to the Gasden purchase and border settlements US made with Mexico where Obama hinted he seems to side with the Mexican claims. Would those in attendence share that view is a question that should be asked, because I believe they would,.he does.

SOLVING THE ‘LATINO” PROBLEM A MYTH HISPANIC IS NOT A RACE BUT A POLITICAL LINGUISTIC CONTRIVANCE ...don’t fall into the hyphenated Americans trap created by the hyphenated political party ...The DEMO-COMS

The Mexicans have been getting most favorable treatment above the rest of our neighbors both north and south. They’re permitted to cross our borders and enter illegally and are allowed access to rights of citizenship (with the exception of voting which if the democrat party regains control over the House will happen) other nationals entering this country don’t get.. Worse yet the Obama government has been working hand in glove with Mexican movements such as LaRaza supporting the Mexican claims which are also supporting “Amnesty”.

Also by allowing Mexicans to do this any quota ration for immigration from other south and central American countrys are taken up by Mexicans while that country is laying claim to a large chunk of our sovereign territory is a recipe for later serious problems which are happening now.

ARE MEXICAN ILLEGALS SQUATTERS PERPETUATING THE MEXICAN CLAIMS ?

We are already seeing the result of this in certain areas claimed by the Mexicans. Their national flag (standard) gets displayed over ours. Where there is a controlling number of Mexican nationals (illegals). It’s displayed over certain institutions particularly schools accompanied by riots and disturbances. Blacks are threatend by Mexicans in certain sections of citys in those areas. We’re courting trouble by not placing a value on our sovereignty and our citizenship.

MOST COINS OF THE REALM HAVE TWO FACES WHAT ABOUT HOW ARE AMERICAN CITIZENS LIVING IN MEXICO BEING TREATED ?

Worse yet if a US citizen goes into Mexico never mind illegaly but legally. They’ll get 2nd class treatment. Land ownership in title is prohibited period. And there are a slew of regulations they must comply with. Which doesn’t apply to a citizen of Mexico

THE SOLUTION ASSERT OUR SOVEREIGNTY AND TALK RECIPROCITY .

By not insisting on reciprocity particularly on those who have entered this country illegally we’re offering no incentive for assimilation and we’re not easing the burden for our fellow citizens who for what ever reason decided to live in Mexico.

ENOUGH OF THE ONE WORLD SOCIALISM ...BRING BACK SOVEREIGNTY AND SANITY TO OUR COUNTRY .....BRING BACK BELIEF IN GOD ...THIS GOVERNMENT OUT OUR FACE..... OUR RELIGIONS..... AND OUR BEDROOMS..


86 posted on 06/29/2013 4:06:12 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Find it strange when the excuse is being given that while the government knows whats going on in 300 million citizens lives but because the illegals are not citizens and in “the shadows” according to Florida’s Senator Rubio the US doesn’t know who they are or where they’re comming from so we must make them citizens..

THE QUESTION IS SENATORS HOW COULD YOU PASS A 1200 PAGE BILL YOU HAVEN’T READ... THAT HAS A FINE OF $5000 FOR ANY EMPLOYER WHO HIRES A CITIZEN OVER AN ILLEGAL ...WHY ARE YOU SO SET ON IMPORTING LOW WAGE LABORERS MAINLY FROM ONE COUNTRY WHICH TAKE UP JOBS OUR YOUTH AND ESPECIALLY BLACKS COULD BE PERFORMING ? AND HOW CAN HOUSE MEMBERS PASS ANY KIND OF LEGISLATION WHEN THEY KNOW THIS AWAITS THEM AS WELL AS AN UNSSCURED BORDER ONCE THIS GETS OUT OF “CONFERENCE” ?

FR’s ; are urged to visit their respective Congressional Representatives and let them know their feelings

WHEN IT COMES TO AMNESTY

THIS IS THE MEXICAN PART NO ONE DARES MENTION

If you agree with the above and the following please don’t let it lay here in FR-land. Pass it on to to your favorite talk show host and to your US legislators. PUSH THE HASTERT RULE.

ONE NATIONALITY AMNESTY SKEWS QUOTAS. HURTS OTHERS FROM SOUTH AMERICA, AND SKILLED LABOR QUOTAS FROM OTHER NATIONS ...WORSE YET OFFERING AMNESTY FOR NATIONALS FROM A COUNTRY THAT HAS CLAIMS ON OUR NATIONAL TERRITORY THAT COULD AND HAS TURNED INTO PROBLEMS FOR BORDER STATES CLAIMED BY MEXICO .

In that May 3rd speech Obama gave before the Mexican Anthropological Museum in which he blamed America for the violence in Mexico I believe he went even futhur. There’s a inference but never referenced by name to the Gasden purchase and border settlements US made with Mexico where Obama hinted he seems to side with the Mexican claims. Would those in attendence share that view is a question that should be asked, because I believe they would,.he does.

SOLVING THE ‘LATINO” PROBLEM A MYTH HISPANIC IS NOT A RACE BUT A POLITICAL LINGUISTIC CONTRIVANCE ...don’t fall into the hyphenated Americans trap created by the hyphenated political party ...The DEMO-COMS

The Mexicans have been getting most favorable treatment above the rest of our neighbors both north and south. They’re permitted to cross our borders and enter illegally and are allowed access to rights of citizenship (with the exception of voting which if the democrat party regains control over the House will happen) other nationals entering this country don’t get.. Worse yet the Obama government has been working hand in glove with Mexican movements such as LaRaza supporting the Mexican claims which are also supporting “Amnesty”.

Also by allowing Mexicans to do this any quota ration for immigration from other south and central American countrys are taken up by Mexicans while that country is laying claim to a large chunk of our sovereign territory is a recipe for later serious problems which are happening now.

ARE MEXICAN ILLEGALS SQUATTERS PERPETUATING THE MEXICAN CLAIMS ?

We are already seeing the result of this in certain areas claimed by the Mexicans. Their national flag (standard) gets displayed over ours. Where there is a controlling number of Mexican nationals (illegals). It’s displayed over certain institutions particularly schools accompanied by riots and disturbances. Blacks are threatend by Mexicans in certain sections of citys in those areas. We’re courting trouble by not placing a value on our sovereignty and our citizenship.

MOST COINS OF THE REALM HAVE TWO FACES WHAT ABOUT HOW ARE AMERICAN CITIZENS LIVING IN MEXICO BEING TREATED ?

Worse yet if a US citizen goes into Mexico never mind illegaly but legally. They’ll get 2nd class treatment. Land ownership in title is prohibited period. And there are a slew of regulations they must comply with. Which doesn’t apply to a citizen of Mexico

THE SOLUTION ASSERT OUR SOVEREIGNTY AND TALK RECIPROCITY .

By not insisting on reciprocity particularly on those who have entered this country illegally we’re offering no incentive for assimilation and we’re not easing the burden for our fellow citizens who for what ever reason decided to live in Mexico.

ENOUGH OF THE ONE WORLD SOCIALISM ...BRING BACK SOVEREIGNTY AND SANITY TO OUR COUNTRY .....BRING BACK BELIEF IN GOD ...THIS GOVERNMENT OUT OUR FACE..... OUR RELIGIONS..... AND OUR BEDROOMS..


87 posted on 06/29/2013 4:11:21 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Ryan is turning out(his true colors) to be a forked tongue dealer for collapse of what the Founders intended for the USA and what many who fought and died for intended. Of course Ryan never went through the hell of putting your life on line for keeping what the Founders intended. To claim this Nation with It’s demonstrated people character needs a massive immigrant infusion for economic necessity is a bogus lapdog argument. Of course Ryan and his likes of Congress persons will continue to suck away the livelihood of the lesser citizens.


88 posted on 06/29/2013 4:14:13 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Jim Robinson
Paul Ryan Leading House for 'Amnesty' Deal

"Marco the Rubes" counterpart in the House.

Someone PLEASE cue Sarah Palin that IT IS TIME to start a THIRD PARTY.

89 posted on 06/29/2013 4:15:55 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Jim Robinson

Would that be Paul Rino?


90 posted on 06/29/2013 4:18:35 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (Qui pacem, praeparet bellum.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Stupidity beyond belief....Ryan actually believes this?

Ryan compounded his stupidity by his sap-happy claim that reform would "take them out of the shadows, so that they can give us their real identities."

MEMO TO RYAN your sap-happy faith in human nature will not be rewarded---especially by the conniving primitive invaders sucking off taxpayers.

Using multiple identities is v-e-r-y profitable.

<><> one latino illegal (one who got caught) scammed UI for some $3.4 MILLION.

<><> The Washington state latino rapist had some 30 identities---all riding the US gravy train.

<><> $43 million IRS refunds were sent to one address---that's about 37,000 fake ids---just at one address.

=====================================================

HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY COME OUT OF THE SHADOWS--they already have multiple faked ID's to get drivers' licenses under different names....which also allows them to vote under different names....and collect US freebies under different names.

1. legalization forces them to get drivers' licenses under their real names.

2. state computers run a photo-match check to see if the same person has applied under different names.

3. they get investigated for ID theft and have to answer to a judge.

4. they get prosecuted under US law.

==================================================

END OF STORY Ryan still fronts for legalization---pushing a bill that enables them to happily come out of the shadows w/ real identities.

91 posted on 06/29/2013 4:34:08 PM PDT by Liz
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To: dandiegirl
The Mexicans will never vote Republican-never.

More to the point, Mexicans with only grade-school education that must sneak over the border will never become Americans --- never!

I have always and will always welcome immigrants who want to be Americans.

Illegal Mexican criminals? Not so much.

Fascinating discussion at this link :

Patriots and Apostasy

"That is what the new Los Angeles prelate thinks of Americans worried about the fiscal, social, and economic implications of ◦importing (either legally or illegally) up to two million people per year, of whom 30 percent are high-school dropouts,
◦into a country with high unemployment,
◦declining opportunities for unskilled workers,
◦ballooning deficits,
◦crumbling infrastructure,
◦a nearly bankrupt public welfare system,
◦chaotic public schools,
◦an affirmative action system that will immediately grant the immigrants preference over white male war veterans,
◦and millions of native-born black and Hispanic Americans whom employers will not hire, because they can hire instead lower-cost, more "compliant" immigrant workers.

Such Americans are apostates, as Archbishop Gomez says explicitly, insisting: "We must defend the immigrant if we are to be worthy of the name Catholic." I'm glad that Air Force veteran Rev. Patrick Bascio will not fall under Archbishop Gomez's authority; as the author of the tightly reasoned book The Immorality of Illegal Immigration, this former pastor in Harlem (who points up the devastating impact of immigration on black Americans) might find himself condemned as a heretic.

92 posted on 06/29/2013 4:43:52 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

“He also voted for ndaa.”

Why am I not surprised?


93 posted on 06/29/2013 4:44:14 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a chain of convenience stores.)
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To: dandiegirl
The Mexicans will never vote Republican-never.

More to the point, Mexicans with only grade-school education that must sneak over the border will never become Americans --- never!

I have always and will always welcome immigrants who want to be Americans.

Illegal Mexican criminals? Not so much.

Fascinating discussion at this link :

Patriots and Apostasy

"That is what the new Los Angeles prelate thinks of Americans worried about the fiscal, social, and economic implications of ◦importing (either legally or illegally) up to two million people per year, of whom 30 percent are high-school dropouts,
◦into a country with high unemployment,
◦declining opportunities for unskilled workers,
◦ballooning deficits,
◦crumbling infrastructure,
◦a nearly bankrupt public welfare system,
◦chaotic public schools,
◦an affirmative action system that will immediately grant the immigrants preference over white male war veterans,
◦and millions of native-born black and Hispanic Americans whom employers will not hire, because they can hire instead lower-cost, more "compliant" immigrant workers.

Such Americans are apostates, as Archbishop Gomez says explicitly, insisting: "We must defend the immigrant if we are to be worthy of the name Catholic." I'm glad that Air Force veteran Rev. Patrick Bascio will not fall under Archbishop Gomez's authority; as the author of the tightly reasoned book The Immorality of Illegal Immigration, this former pastor in Harlem (who points up the devastating impact of immigration on black Americans) might find himself condemned as a heretic.

94 posted on 06/29/2013 4:50:27 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Ryan looks like he’s trying to be the next Rubio. I trust none of these people, pure and simple.


95 posted on 06/29/2013 5:05:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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To: Jim Robinson

Et tu?


96 posted on 06/29/2013 5:10:28 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Jim Robinson

Ryan is a young fella falling in a suckers game.

What
An
Idiot.


97 posted on 06/29/2013 5:14:12 PM PDT by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.)
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To: Jim Robinson
He argues that the immigration system is broken

What a disappointment Paul Ryan is.
His capitulation to the liberals point of view is almost on a level with Marco Rubio.

The immigration system isn't broken - the credibility and competence of the congress, senate and presidency are broken.

Once again republicans have lost the battle by letting democrats define the issue. To make matters worse, on this issue they have also bought into the falsehood that the immigration system is broken.

Democrats chant and chant and chant the same bogus lines over and over until uninformed people start to believe them. But now we have informed people, like Paul Ryan picking up on the democrats chant and helping them push their lies and falsehoods.

The only thing really broken is the federal government. And the main thing broken that affects immigration is the government's failure to enforce the laws of the land.

For many years, Congress and the courts have let presidents decide which laws to enforce or not enforce.

Now, they also stand by helplessly and let president Obama decide which laws to break. And which laws he wants to selectively enforce or break, depending on a person's skin color or politics.

Starting with Obama, they are almost all guilty of intentionally and knowingly breaking their own oaths of office and deserve to be in prison cells instead of their grand offices in Washington, DC.

98 posted on 06/29/2013 5:32:10 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Rubio's New Book: From Nobody To Senator, To Conservative savior, Then Back To Nobody")
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To: seekthetruth

This is the Trojan Horse.

Boehner should take up the Senate bill and vote it down, or blue slip it as being unconstitutional. Either way kill it.

If GOP passes its own house bill, no matter how favorable, then the 2 bills will go to a conference committee and a compromise bill will come out that House cannot then stop.

Boehner is pulling a fast one (he thinks).

Ryan is already on board with Gang of 8. It is a set up.


99 posted on 06/29/2013 5:49:49 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Jim Robinson

Blackmailers got to him too.


100 posted on 06/29/2013 6:02:07 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Cracker Barrel is racist and I demand that they change their name.)
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