If Lakeshark actually had a change of heart and decided to rejoin conservatives, that would be great. But he hasn’t. In our arguement above, he said...
Saturday, June 29, 2013 12:32:44 PM · 106 of 466
Lakeshark to Norm Lenhart
Norm, if you weren’t so stupid I’d actually address your post.
If we were to follow your ideas, we’d get about 2% of the low fo right of center vote.
Now ‘my ideas’ art the ones we are all discussing (not that they are ‘my’ ideas, but the ones we are all talking about on this thread are the very things he has trashed me for, and others for, time and again.
Yes, there is a history and it actually began with us on the same team mocking PDSers for their MSNBC talking points. Since then, Lake and I parted company over Romney.
If you go into his post history, aside from his posting pix of Yosemitie Sam on a dragon and calling it intelligent political commentary, you will find numerous and repeated assertions that both principles and ‘purists’ are the problem. That’s his own words in his own posts, not me ‘claiming’ anything.
He repeatedly wants conservatives to sell out their principles to ‘win’. And many people did that over the years. myself included to my eternal shame. But we did it. And what exactly did that get us all? It got us a Congress full of unprincipled Republicans that vote with Democrats.
There is no need to go into great detail as all freepers know the plethora of examples showing these ‘winners’ are no different from dems.
But he has consistently screamed bloody murder that we keep doing it and trashing many freepers in very personal terms, for not going along. And as you can see in his post I copy/pasted, he thinks all the things we are discussing here will get us ‘2%’ of the vote.
No, he is the same Lakeshark he has been. And what he represents is the very thing we are fighting against. If he someday sees how destructive his beliefs have been to America and abandons the lesser evil path to socialism, great. But he has not. And people like that should be given no more quarter than Rubio. Because when he mocks all of us that say “Enough!” and continues spreading the gospel of ‘lesser evils’ the Rubios of the GOP are exactly the people he wants to continue in power. Simple Boolean logic.
You do not fix a problem by continuing to repeat the causes of it. Ergo, you do not fix a broken conservative movement, or country, by electing more of the people who broke it.
Everything you say is true, and it is a given that my posting doesn’t apply to people who don’t really subscribe to the change necessary.
I had read multiple posts from various posters that were along the line of “people should apologize to us”, and by the time I got to yours, I thought I needed to bring it up.
Obviously, if someone wants to bring the same mix of politics into it that have brought us to this point, it would be pointless to proceed with that person on our side.
My point was more to the treatment of people who may have had to be dragged kicking and screaming across the line, but they got across the line nonetheless.
In retrospect, I should’ve left you folks alone on this.