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To: CottShop

First, there is no recording, so there is always doubt as to what was said and what meaning was intended.

However, if you perform a web search for the phrase “ass cracker” in conjunction with the word “gay” it will return many hits which collectively confirm that the term is used to denote anal sex between homosexual males.

All Z needs is reasonable doubt, not “beyond reasonable doubt.”

Most likely, West left it alone since Jeantel confirmed that she heard and understood M to consider Z a homosexual (’pervert’). I do not know if you have been around young disadvantaged black students in remedial school, but their speech can be shockingly graphic and matter-of-fact at the same time. There would be imho nothing strange about M and Jeantel referring to Z as an ass cracker in the anal sex sense. It would imho simply be just another phrase in their everyday vocabulary that they would employ to describe someone who was acting in the manner of what they presumed to be a homosexual stalker. West only needed the references to “pervert” and “rapist,” but no doubt he got the notion that M was hostile to homosexuals, and that provides a motive for M to suckerpunch Z and try to beat him down. Should West choose to invoke further reasonable doubt in order to impugn a motive for M to initiate aggression against Z in his closing arguments, a web search of the term “ass cracker” will provide that. West does not need to circle back and give Jeantel an opportunity to retract the motive that supports Z’s version of the incident that she just gave West. Actually, doing that would be shooting himself in the foot.


89 posted on 06/29/2013 2:29:14 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH
Have you not been paying attention? NSA has recorded the phone calls, and IF they were to favor the persecutors they would already be in the hands of the JonStewart media
90 posted on 06/29/2013 2:33:17 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: SteveH

[[However, if you perform a web search for the phrase “ass cracker” in conjunction with the word “gay” it will return many hits which collectively confirm that the term is used to denote anal sex between homosexual males.]]

I am not doubting that- but growing up years ago- another very common slang term was ‘crazt ass” as in somethign like “That creepy ass stranger in town” or “Have you heard abotu that creepy ass teacher in science class?” or somethign liek that

It’s likely martin meant it the way you dewscribe, however, it’s goign to be hard to state that without corroboration from jenteal- did hse come right out and state martin waqs intimatign Z was a creepy homo? I hadn’t heard that?

[[I do not know if you have been around young disadvantaged black students in remedial school,]]

No but I’ve been aroudn disavantaged white folks with much the same vocabulary- even took part in it for a spell in my dumb years

[[West does not need to circle back and give Jeantel an opportunity to retract the motive that supports Z’s version of the incident that she just gave West.]]

Had he struck whiel hte iron was hot, she wouldn’t have been bright enough to figure out what west was doing- buit now that the issue has been dormant, I’m sure her lawyers were alarmed and have instructed her as to how to handle any fuirther question like that shoudl there be more-

[[a web search of the term “ass cracker” will provide that.]]

As will a search for ‘creepy ass’ which was common slang not too long ago-

[[Actually, doing that would be shooting himself in the foot.]]

At this point0- UI agree- I’m sure her lawyers were quite nervous when west was questioning her and have sicne made certain she will retract if questioned further-


93 posted on 06/29/2013 9:09:07 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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