Posted on 06/21/2013 1:21:04 PM PDT by Nachum
(CNSNews.com) - Why shouldn't women in the military have the same opportunities as men do? Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel asked on Thursday. It's not a matter of lowering standards, he said.
In remarks at Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska, Hagel was asked how he feels about putting females on the front lines of combat -- "based on our social background of men being the protectors of women," as the questioner put it.
Hagel's reponse:
First, I think everyone understands, and this is the right thing, we can't lower standards. We have high standards. We should have high standards. Our country has high standards. Our military has always had higher standards. And we need to keep those standards. And so it's not a matter of lowering standards to assist women to get into combat positions -- women don't want that, you wouldn't want that -- and I think to find the right balance of implementation to allow women to move into these new opportunities and new positions if they want, if they're qualified, if they can do the job.
And why shouldn't they have those opportunities? Why shouldn't they have the same opportunities as men do on these?
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“We look for the weasle room to lower those standards”
Just a continuation of what’s been going on for decades; replacing what works with something that “sounds good”.
I guess it's the week for it. We had Chelsea Clinton lamenting her grandparents' lack of abortion availability....
I heard earlier this week they are already talking about creating different standards for women in the rangers and seals.
That's the Liberals goal.
Neuter our military and make them unable to do much more than supply our enemies with arms and training.
That, and to pass out goodies to the worlds poor
Hagel was one of the few people to ever serve in the Senate that could make Joe Biden look smart in comparison
Ok Secretary Hagel, I’ll bite:
“Because it would be a waste of money?”
Training and evaluation cost money, and lots of it.
At least our slow friend agrees that lowering standards - ‘bad’.
So, we could select candidates that have a chance of meeting or exceeding existing standards, or we could select candidates that have little to no shot of meeting or exceeding existing standards and have a wash out rate of 99%.
Call me crazy, but since DOD was forced to cut budget - twice, and then get sequestered, this doesn’t seem a good idea from a simple cost standpoint.
I could give you the half a dozen excellent reasons why women on the front lines will NEVER enhance our ability to carry out mission objectives, but why not stick to bucks?
I agree with Hagel, start by sending all the “Femi-Nazi” types to combat, especially to places that are Taliban Controlled...In their own “special” units too, no need to have our service men endure their screeching...
Here in L. A. the police training center for new recruits used to have a wall that had to be scaled for recruits to pass. As soon as the women were allowed in, that became a thing of the past.
All of a sudden all the physical test didnt mean squat anymore. And when that came about standards were lowered significantly.
Who do you want having your back, a 6 3 body builder, or a 98 pound mother of three?
Well it also allows the doughnut eaters to that are a muffin short of 400 to endanger their partners in the field too...
Why shouldn’t a 59 year old fat guy be allowed to join the Navy Seals?
I’ve been wondering why in this era of equality why women don’t have to register with selective service. Seems kinda sexist.
I’ll you why ... because women have no place in combat. It has nothing to do with capability. It’s all about nature. Men think differently when on war footing. They don’t need women in their way distracting them from their duties.
It’s time to put this equal opportunity horsesh*t where it belongs. No man wants a woman in his foxhole with him. No man wants to be responsible for a woman’s safety during combat and that’s exactly how he’ll feel - responsible for her.
Hagel’s “question” is a straw man. The military exists for one reason only, the armed defense of the nation. It isn’t, never was, and never should be a government job-corps program. And as such, “opportunity” in that context is meaningless. The military isn’t there to provide “opportunity” to anyone. It’s there to defend the country, by force if need be. Period. End of story.
Not only that, but when the public back home get to see live action shots of the torture and rape, there goes the war effort. It would be the perfect propaganda tool.
“Ill you why ... because women have no place in combat. It has nothing to do with capability. Its all about nature. Men think differently when on war footing. They dont need women in their way distracting them from their duties.
Its time to put this equal opportunity horsesh*t where it belongs. No man wants a woman in his foxhole with him. No man wants to be responsible for a womans safety during combat and thats exactly how hell feel - responsible for her.”
Just thought it needed repeating. With a son in the army in harms way couldn’t agree more.
What?! Are you serious? Why?!
“I hope you enjoy the Cross pen and pencil set your grandparents sent for graduation, Susie.”
“Well, Mom—they’re very nice but ..... make no mistake about it. I’d rather have combat.”
I’m sure the Obamas and their daughters feel the same way.
“It would be the perfect propaganda tool.”
Excellent point.
because they know women can’t meet the current requirements. heck most men can’t meet the current physical requirements.
They are questioning whether the standards really need to be that tough, or are they so tough because it was designed for men.
I can’t remember the source, heard it on the radio. Will look for it.
In my view anybody that looks at going into battle as an “opportunity” is too stupid to serve and will very likely get a lot of good men killed.
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