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George W. Bush’s Great-Great-Great-Great-Grandfather Was A Slave Trader
Slate ^ | 20 June 2013 | Simon Akam

Posted on 06/20/2013 11:09:10 AM PDT by zeestephen

Thomas Walker, a direct ancestor of George W. and George H.W. Bush, was a notorious slave trader active in the late 18th century along the coast of West Africa.

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KEYWORDS: americanhistory; bushfamily; presidentbush; slavery
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To: zeestephen; a fool in paradise

Dan Rather still reporting?


51 posted on 06/20/2013 11:35:37 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: zeestephen

cowards. Godless, soulless cowards. you can always tell when the retarded bastards at the slate are trying to avoid reporting on obama scandals and/or failures; they write some pointless hit job on GWB.


52 posted on 06/20/2013 11:35:49 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Ohioan

Thousands of blacks in this country owned slaves. Some were even slave breeders, something whites wouldn’t do. The first freed slave in this country got a court order to turn his indentured servant into a slave and later went on to own many slaves.


53 posted on 06/20/2013 11:35:50 AM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: rarestia

Slaves supplied by muslims, to ripen into an invasion army in the host country.

These folks operate on a completely different time scale.


54 posted on 06/20/2013 11:36:55 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: zeestephen
I'm certain that Thomas Walker was not the only slave trader of that era. Let's track down all of them and see how many modern era families are decended from them. I suspect that any family with colonial ancestors could be similar entwined.

Since my ancestors came over from eastern Europe about a hundred years ago, I am certain that none of them were involved.

55 posted on 06/20/2013 11:38:58 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: zeestephen

What difference does it make?
56 posted on 06/20/2013 11:39:13 AM PDT by Spruce
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To: zeestephen

Well, Al Gore’s father voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and Jimmy Carter’s great grandfather served in the Confederate Army. Why aren’t those facts the subject of headlines? And - presumably - JFK’s father OPPOSED GAY MARRIAGE!!!!!!


57 posted on 06/20/2013 11:40:20 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: zeestephen

The first black slave was purchased by a black also making the first black slave owner.


58 posted on 06/20/2013 11:41:45 AM PDT by edcoil (When given a choice, take both.)
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To: bigbob

Inventory, no! More likely, they were the suppliers of slaves from Africa to the European and American (both North American and South American) traders.


59 posted on 06/20/2013 11:43:49 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: reg45

So what. One of my ancestors was burned at the stake.

Isn’t Obama distantly related to dubya?


60 posted on 06/20/2013 11:48:18 AM PDT by rintense
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To: zeestephen

We still have slaves in the U.S. Only we call them welfare recipients. Oh, and they don’t work, they are just owned.


61 posted on 06/20/2013 11:49:38 AM PDT by ruesrose (The Anchor Holds)
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To: zeestephen

Obama’s GREAT GRANDFATHER was probably a Slave OWNER AND TRADER!!


62 posted on 06/20/2013 11:50:12 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Mr. K

Don’t be so sure that somewhere in Obama’s family tree there was not a slave trader.

But it doesn’t matter; he is a democrat.


63 posted on 06/20/2013 11:51:23 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Hardraade

Never considered that, Hardraade. That’s actually a brilliant observation.


64 posted on 06/20/2013 11:51:35 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: zeestephen

LOL!!!


65 posted on 06/20/2013 11:51:36 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: zeestephen
George W. Bush’s Great-Great-Great-Great-Grandfather Was A Slave Trader

And I'm supposed to care because. . .?

66 posted on 06/20/2013 11:52:35 AM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: zeestephen
slave trader active in the late 18th century...

Can someone help me out with some history?

As I recall, the actual import of slaves from Africa to the USA completely stopped around 1800.

Some basic help. The 18th century is from 1701 to 1800.

67 posted on 06/20/2013 11:52:53 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: zeestephen

My great-grandfather~ was Adam


68 posted on 06/20/2013 11:53:45 AM PDT by Cyman
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To: freeangel

as a boy, Obama had servants in Kenya. you think they weren’t slaves


69 posted on 06/20/2013 11:55:38 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: reg45
The Delanos, maternal ancestors of Franklin Roosevelt, made their fortune in part through the slave trade. Of the first seven Presidents, five (Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Jackson) were slaveholders. Ulysses Grant, the general that led to Union to victory, had owned slaves in antebellum Missouri. William Jefferson Clinton's middle name may either honor the third President or the first and only Confederate President. Jefferson was a common first and middle name in the postbellum South, as was Lee.
70 posted on 06/20/2013 11:56:59 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: zeestephen

oh please....Washington, Jefferson etal all had slaves. no need to import after a while....they bred them


71 posted on 06/20/2013 11:58:00 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: theDentist
This is only to go after Jeb and his potential run.

So it's not all bad...

72 posted on 06/20/2013 11:58:41 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: zeestephen

Don’t believe anything from Slate but GWH and GW Bush have done a fair amount of enslaving Freedom loving Americans....tools that they are!


73 posted on 06/20/2013 11:59:57 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Mr. K

We are in deep, deep trouble with Obama...he has no respect for the Bill of Rights. He sees the Constitution as an obstacle to gotten around. He sees middle class white Americans who live in flyover country as the problem.

He will do terrible, terrible damage over the next three years...we must oppose him at every turn.

Start by contacting your member of Congress and ask them to vote no on immigration reform being shoved down our throats.


74 posted on 06/20/2013 12:00:04 PM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: zeestephen

So was 0bama’s great great great grandfather. Did Slate include that in the article?


75 posted on 06/20/2013 12:00:17 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: zeestephen

So what, Obama’s dad was a Communist and that nut didn’t fall far from the tree...


76 posted on 06/20/2013 12:02:49 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: zeestephen

And Obama’s Kenyan ancestors (Luo tribe) were slave traders.


77 posted on 06/20/2013 12:02:54 PM PDT by griswold3 (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: zeestephen

Funny that they can still dig up stuff that a Bush ancestor was a slave trader several centuries ago but they still can’t find out anything on Obama.


78 posted on 06/20/2013 12:04:08 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's Enemies List - Yes, you are a crook.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Right!!


79 posted on 06/20/2013 12:04:31 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Trailerpark Badass; treetopsandroofs
Yeah, Jeb is no where in my book either.

My observation being that they (the Press) will stoop to any level.

80 posted on 06/20/2013 12:05:53 PM PDT by theDentist (FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: zeestephen

Thanks for posting. I find this kind of stuff interesting. I have been doing genealogy for about 30 years. Most of what I have found on my family has been pretty mundane. Some of it hasn’t. I’m okay with it either way. That’s history. So Bush’s ancestor from over two centuries ago was a slave trader. The idea that he should be made to squirm about that is ludicrous.


81 posted on 06/20/2013 12:09:07 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: zeestephen

Must have been a slow day for Simon today. The boy needs to get a real job.


82 posted on 06/20/2013 12:10:30 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (23,116,441 households on Food Stamps! Now that's what I call HISTORICAL!!!)
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To: reg45
Since my ancestors came over from eastern Europe about a hundred years ago ...

Humorously, by derivation, you may be on the victim side (by ancestry) of this equation. If they came from one of the 'Slavic' countries, where do you think that name comes from?

As for significance of a 64th portion of ancestry, well, a certain mASS US Senator used a 32nd portion to claim minority status for 'high cheekbones'! JUNK SCIENCE par excellence!

83 posted on 06/20/2013 12:10:56 PM PDT by SES1066 (Government governs best when it governs least!)
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To: zeestephen

I have a better response to this idea of demonizing the innocent of today with the sins of the past...

Who cares.


84 posted on 06/20/2013 12:15:44 PM PDT by EBH (The government that sits in Washington, D.C. is not the United States government.)
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To: theDentist
This is only to go after Jeb and his potential run.

Oh...well, then I'm with them.

85 posted on 06/20/2013 12:16:17 PM PDT by Bronzewound
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To: zeestephen

Virtually all of the British colonists, whether in the US or the Caribbean, were slave traders. And they traded in both African and American Indian slaves.

The Spanish colony of St Augustine (now known as Florida) permitted the African slaves of the English colonies to the north (Georgia and the Carolinas) to gain their freedom if they could get across the Florida border. They had to accept Christianity, swear allegiance to the Spanish Crown, and start learning Spanish.

This ended in the 19th century, when the pressure from the formerly British American colonies made it too dangerous for the Spanish to continue this policy.

Also, when the British destroyed the Florida mission chain in 1702-1704, some 11,000 Indians were captured and sent to the British Caribbean to be slaves on the sugar plantations.

Slavery was practiced in the Spanish colonies, but it was more like indentured servitude: slaves could earn money, buy their freedom, be freed by their masters (something not permitted in much of the South), had to be permitted to receive the sacraments of the Church (evangelization was actually forbidden in much of the non-Spanish South, and there were jail terms for the Protestant ministers who tried it), and marriages had to be respected.

The Spanish had been forbidden by the Pope and Queen Isabella to enslave the Indians, and Columbus actually went to jail for bringing back a few Indians to show off at court. Naturally, in the Spanish colonies, the Franciscan mssionaries and the Spanish governors had to fight constantly against the “property developers,” as we would call them now, who attempted to enslave the Indians in one form or another. And sometimes the missionaries had to fight against the governor.

But chattel slavery was not practiced in the Spanish colonies, while it was the norm in the British colonies.

Brazil, btw, being a Portuguese colony, was a separate case, because the Treaty of Tordesillas gave both Africa and Brazil to the Portuguese. They completely ignored the papal bull forbidding the enslavement of the native peoples and started buying slaves from the Arabs in Africa, since Portugal had been given the “rights” to Africa.

The British-American colonists were really the big US slavers in Africa, buying the slaves from the Arabs and shipping them to the US. The major Spanish participation was with the ships, and the “Amistad” (upon which the movie was based) was one of the ships that a Spanish captain had leased out for the transportation of slaves to New England. Being a Spaniard, he didn’t keep them chained up in the hold, he let them up on deck...and the rest is history.


86 posted on 06/20/2013 12:20:07 PM PDT by livius
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To: zeestephen

Oh...for...God’s...sake... Enough already.


87 posted on 06/20/2013 12:21:13 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: zeestephen
Slaves, Smaves!

That's NOTHING. I'm a descendent of Jesus and directly related to him.

88 posted on 06/20/2013 12:23:19 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Obadiah
As I've said before, “It's more likely that Al Sharpton’s ancestors owned Jessie Jackson's ancestors, than did mine.”

Many Africans sold themselves and their children into slavery to avoid starvation. There are parents in Africa today who sell their children into slavery. Oprah had a show about it. I think it was Lisa Ling who did the documentary. I remember her saying we shouldn't judge the parents, or those that held the children as slaves, because it was part of their “culture”. I remember thinking how strange it was that she, and Oprah with her silence, would hold blacks, who currently engage in slavery, less accountable than the white descendants of those who owned slaves hundreds of years ago. I'm sure the white slave owners in Dixie thought slavery was a part of their culture too.
Africans hated whites for ending slave trading with them. Slave trading was how they got their guns and rum.

89 posted on 06/20/2013 12:26:08 PM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: ozzymandus

The mainstream media is a joke. They will not look at what happened to Obama five minutes ago and are still trying to dig up dirt on Bush even if it happened hundreds of years in the past. And they don’t understand why few if any really trust them. The media is just pathetic.


90 posted on 06/20/2013 12:27:14 PM PDT by Essie
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To: zeestephen

So.... Blame Bush for slavery.


91 posted on 06/20/2013 12:28:22 PM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: livius

Interesting that they didn’t look into the backgrounds of Presidents from former slave states, like Johnson, Clinton or Carter.


92 posted on 06/20/2013 12:28:23 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Bronzewound

Sorry, but while i have no interest in the Bush’s near the WH again, the actions of the press are just like the actions of the IRS going after enemies of the Despot-in-CHief. We may not be able to control it, but we should reserve a lot of disdain for such actions and let them know about it. (IMO)


93 posted on 06/20/2013 12:29:59 PM PDT by theDentist (FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: zeestephen
"So, Show Me The Hut Where Barack Obama Was Born."

"Oh! ...never mind."

94 posted on 06/20/2013 12:31:36 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: colorado tanker

Now why would they do something like that???

I recall reading that one of Bambi’s x-times removed ancestors on his mother’s side was a slaveholder. And his father’s family, African-Arab Muslims, had certainly been slaveholders - and probably still are.


95 posted on 06/20/2013 12:32:08 PM PDT by livius
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To: zeestephen

The sins of the father are visited upon the fourth generation; or, in the case of white people, the sixth.


96 posted on 06/20/2013 12:32:59 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: colorado tanker

Or Obama, slavers on both sides.


97 posted on 06/20/2013 12:34:30 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Mr. K

Actually might have. My understanding is that the source of the slaves was often one tribe capturing another tribes people to sell to the slave traders.


98 posted on 06/20/2013 12:35:44 PM PDT by Wicket (God bless and protect our troops and God bless America)
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To: zeestephen

Emmitt Smith discovered on “Who Do You Think You Are” that his fifth great grandfather was likely a slave trader. He also found out the Africans are involved in the slave trading business to this day.


99 posted on 06/20/2013 12:40:30 PM PDT by rwa265
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To: zeestephen
Big deal. Obama's ancestors owned slaves:

Obama's slave-owning family

Who knows, maybe W's ancestor sold those slaves to Obama's ancestors.

100 posted on 06/20/2013 12:42:42 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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