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TWA Flight 800 Investigators Claim the Official Crash Story Is a Lie
The Atlantic Wire ^ | 6/18/2013 | Dashiell Bennett

Posted on 06/19/2013 6:57:17 AM PDT by Menehune56

A new film claims the official government report on the crash of TWA Flight 800 in 1996 is an elaborate fabrication, but the most shocking part of the story is that charges are being leveled by some of the very investigators who put the report together. Six experts who appear in the film were members of the National Transportation Safety Board investigation team that concluded the crash was an accident, but they now claim they were silenced by their superiors. The movies, "TWA Flight 800" will debut on EPIX TV next month, on the 17-year anniversary of the crash.

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KEYWORDS: clintoncorruption; clintonrico; dnccorruption; dncrico; flight800; gorelick; noaccountability; notruth; twa800; twaflight800
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This story provides details on when and where the documentary will be aired. Unlike just every other story I looked at. "TWA Flight 800" will debut on EPIX TV next month, on the 17-year anniversary of the crash.
1 posted on 06/19/2013 6:57:17 AM PDT by Menehune56
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To: Menehune56

The headline implies these are official investigators.


2 posted on 06/19/2013 6:58:43 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Menehune56

If this turns out to be true, as I suspect it will, a lot of people will owe Joe Farah an apology.


3 posted on 06/19/2013 6:58:57 AM PDT by Obadiah (Inside of every Liberal beats the heart of a fascist yearning to reveal their true nature.)
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To: Menehune56

I will never forget the face of James Kahlstrom, what I consider to be one of the most evil men in our nation’s history.


4 posted on 06/19/2013 6:59:21 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: babble-on

Original investigators... from 96.


5 posted on 06/19/2013 7:00:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: Menehune56

...anyone over 12 who’s ever built a RC plane could have told you years ago, if the nose falls off an aircraft during flight the CG (center of gravity) is gone, and the plane will NOT CLIMB....


6 posted on 06/19/2013 7:02:34 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Obadiah

It’s true. We’ve known for a decade and a half that pock marks on the exterior of the aircraft could not have been made by an interior explosion.

The front wheel well door was blown in, not out.

There was a guy that took the lead in the private investigation, and I’m drawing a blank on his name right now (which I feel terrible about, he did such good detailed work), and he compiled enough information to make it clear the official ruling was just laughable.

Kahlstrom thought he really had us hoodwinked. He was an utter fool. We had his number within days. He never fooled anyone. He just helped destroy himself number one, and our faith in our own government number two.

The official ruling on TWA 800, was such a farce, that it was downright laughable.


7 posted on 06/19/2013 7:06:02 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: Menehune56

They were trying to protect Muslims back then too? Yes I am assuming that it was them!


8 posted on 06/19/2013 7:11:20 AM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Are you thinking of William Donaldson?:
http://www.100megspop3.com/bark/800WDtestmny.html


9 posted on 06/19/2013 7:12:11 AM PDT by AJFavish (www.allanfavish.com)
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To: Menehune56
Information on EPIX TV

http://corp.epixhd.com

10 posted on 06/19/2013 7:12:22 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: ForAmerica

It was on Clinton’s watch. He didn’t want any terrorist attacks, either. And really, after all these years -— WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE???


11 posted on 06/19/2013 7:13:32 AM PDT by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
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To: AJFavish

Hey good morning Alan. Yes it was Donaldson.

Thank you.

Hope things are going good for you.


12 posted on 06/19/2013 7:13:39 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: Menehune56

Everyone deserves the truth. There’s a little town in Central PA that still hasn’t recovered from this, and deserves it even more.


13 posted on 06/19/2013 7:13:57 AM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: DoughtyOne
Yeah and Kahlstrom was a good friend of Rush's and Rush told us that Kahlstrom was a straight shooter and had no motive to withhold the truth.

I too believed from day one that there was a government cover up and I am by no means a conspiratorialist. Clinton was in office and he had motive.

This was Bill Clinton's Benghazi.

This occurred in July 1996 months before Clinton's reelection bid in November. There was every reason to believe Clinton's goons covered this up so as not to mess up his reelection bid. And there was ample precedent of the Clinton WH thugs doing things like this.

Too many highly credible eye witnesses saw a missile streak through the sky. Some terrorist with a Manpad or Stinger did this. Alternatively, it was a US Naval mishap, though this seems less possible.

14 posted on 06/19/2013 7:14:02 AM PDT by Obadiah (Inside of every Liberal beats the heart of a fascist yearning to reveal their true nature.)
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To: ForAmerica

There was a lot of talk at the time of a “streak of light” that went from the beaches in Jersey to where the plane was climbing at the moment of the explosion. The media dropped the whole “SAM incident” question VERY quickly.

If a Dem’s in office, you can expect to be lied to. Hell, anymore, if a Rep’s in office, you can expect the same but at least the media will troll the conspiracy theories.


15 posted on 06/19/2013 7:14:04 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Doogle
...anyone over 12 who’s ever built a RC plane could have told you years ago, if the nose falls off an aircraft during flight....

then you built a really crappy plane.

: )

16 posted on 06/19/2013 7:14:18 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: AJFavish

BTW: Thanks for the link.


17 posted on 06/19/2013 7:14:26 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: Obadiah

Everybody I know thinks that plane was shot down by a shoulder fired weapon. Numerous people saw a rocket trail. I never understood why they covered it up.


18 posted on 06/19/2013 7:15:13 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ForAmerica

Without such protection of Islamic terrorism
THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO 911 ATROCITIES,
NO BOSTON ATROCITIES,
NO BENGHAZI ATROCITIES,
NO HASAN ATROCITIES,
NO COLE MURDERER RELEASE ATROCITIES,
etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

But there was, and so it has gone.


19 posted on 06/19/2013 7:15:31 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: duckworth

Obama has just returned service on the Clintons for however much of the current stuff was leaked by them.

Everything I ever needed to know about the Democrat Party I learned by watching reruns of The Sopranos.


20 posted on 06/19/2013 7:16:14 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: DoughtyOne
A visual reference for convenience.


21 posted on 06/19/2013 7:16:54 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Because it occurred in July 1996, months before Clinton’s reelection. This was Clinton’s Benghazi!


22 posted on 06/19/2013 7:17:56 AM PDT by Obadiah (Inside of every Liberal beats the heart of a fascist yearning to reveal their true nature.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Obama has just returned service on the Clintons for however much of the current stuff was leaked by them.”

Yup! I just said something to this effect to my wife after seeing the thread headline. President ValJar does not play nice nice!


23 posted on 06/19/2013 7:18:27 AM PDT by Batman11 (Obama is not American.. he has no clue what it is to be American.)
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To: Menehune56

An aeronautical engineer once told me that an essential quality of all aviation fuels is that in the fuel tanks, the air-fuel mixture above the fuels must not be ignitable. Fortunately, for all fuels used in transportation, the mixture is not ignitable.

Air-fuel mixtures are not ignitable if the air-to-fuel-vapor mixture is either too high or too low.

I’m thinking that the air-fuel vapor mixture above jet fuel in a tank is not ignitable. If that’s the case then the NTSB explanation for the flight 800 explosion might not be correct.


24 posted on 06/19/2013 7:19:32 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Menehune56
"........ the official government report on the crash of TWA Flight 800 in 1996 is an elaborate fabrication,...."

I remember it well. They never fooled us with their stupid report.

25 posted on 06/19/2013 7:22:10 AM PDT by Spunky
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To: Menehune56
There was speculation that TWA 800 was shot down by the Navy that was conducting missile exercises in the area. It may or may not have been accidental.

This goes to show how the entire Federal government and the Corporate Media can come together and cover-up the deaths of Americans and totally get away with it using an "official story" that doesn't stand the least bit scrutiny.

26 posted on 06/19/2013 7:22:23 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: Obadiah

Jack Cashill was on top of this from the get-go. He wrote a book and produced a video. But, better late than never - someone’s out to trash the Trash know as the Clintoons. I am for anything that keeps that woman from running for POTUS.


27 posted on 06/19/2013 7:22:37 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Menehune56

If the center fuel tank on this 747 spontaneously exploded, then why don’t fuel tanks on tens of millions of autos that have an open fuel pump sitting in gasoline also explode on hot summer days?

TWA 800 was destroyed by an external cause, and the rush to ignore and suppress evidence to that effect is entirely consistent with the Clinton Administration’s pattern of forcing major events in an approved political and ideological framework that could be molded at least to not damage their Agenda, and hopefully to advance it.

That was the case when the first attempt to destroy the World Trade Center was treated as a domestic crime instead of the act of war that it was. The same might be said for the OKC BOMB.


28 posted on 06/19/2013 7:23:25 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Menehune56

If it was shot down by terrorists how come nobody claimed the action? This would have been the first and only time a commercial jet was shot out of the sky and the organization that was responsible suffers lockjaw for 17 years?

I think not.


29 posted on 06/19/2013 7:24:13 AM PDT by Cyman
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To: DoughtyOne

It’s spelled Kallstrom, and I agree. But Brennan is giving him a run for his money


30 posted on 06/19/2013 7:24:22 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Obadiah

My neighbor, a ret’d NYPD Loo was an FAA investigator in 96. He told me over a few Jacks that it was clealry a malfunction. But my friend’s brother was actually flying his single Beechcraft out of Gabreski that night and saw the contrails jutting up toward the 747. He followed them till impact. In his opinion there was no doubt. He had not seen contrails spiraling downward fom the blast as investigators told him. he’d seen something climbing up and impacting the 747. 17 years later he still knows what he saw. How to explain my neighbor? His opinion was based on seeing the reconstructed plane out in at the then Grumman facility in Calverton. Which pieces went into that reconstruction were from 800 and which were replacement parts only a few know. I often remark on these threads that that evening about 8ish Bernie Shaw was reporting on the matter on CNN and he brought up Wolf Blitzer who was then WH correspondent, reporting from the WH. Blitzer said Clinton would speak to the nation at 10PM. Why would POTUS speak about an air accident? The POTUS speech never happened. The Olympics were to begin in 3 weeks in Atlanta and Clinton was running for reelection. No one in the administration wanted to defend allowing a US airliner to be destroyed 14,000 feet over the Hamptons by terrorist or terrorists unknown. Hence the coverup and the willing continuation of that coverup by successive administrations.One hand washes the other.


31 posted on 06/19/2013 7:32:15 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Exactly what I inferred on another thread. Obama is pulling the Clinton skeletons out of the closet now, either as a warning to stay in line, or to begin the process of destroying anything Clinton in the future. Big guns rolling out now. Nothing like owning the NSA/CIA/FBI/JD when you want to make the going rough for your enemies, especially if they have a "track record"...

Hillary better have bus undercarriage insurance, stay away from Fort Marcy Park, and be careful when flying...

32 posted on 06/19/2013 7:33:29 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: cymbeline

“I’m thinking that the air-fuel vapor mixture above jet fuel in a tank is not ignitable. “

Not only that but when the Air Force tried to test that theory the ONLY way they could get an explosion is when they added propane to the tank.


33 posted on 06/19/2013 7:34:17 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Dubh_Ghlase
If you've never seen the Will Smith/Gene Hackman film Enemy of the State, go rent it now. What we are witnessing is essentially the final ten minutes of that film.


34 posted on 06/19/2013 7:35:01 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Menehune56

A year or two after the crash, at a women’s conference, I had lunch with the mother of one of the victims. After we had discussed the topic for a few minutes, I asked her what her conclusions were concerning the cause, and she flatly stated that it was a Navy test gone terribly wrong. From all that she and her family had seen and heard as people directly associated with the tragedy, they felt that it was a no-brainer and that the government should have just admitted it. I found it very interesting.


35 posted on 06/19/2013 7:35:34 AM PDT by rejoicing
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To: Roccus

Thanks for the proper spelling. I’m not sure who Brennan is.


36 posted on 06/19/2013 7:35:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: Menehune56

I’ll want to read this later.


37 posted on 06/19/2013 7:37:41 AM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: Obadiah

I had forgotten about the Rush take on Kallstrom. That was a disappointment.

I agree with your comments. That’s how I see it also.


38 posted on 06/19/2013 7:37:46 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Thanks for the photo.

It’s amazing how they can put the thing back together like that.


39 posted on 06/19/2013 7:38:38 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: DoughtyOne

John O. Brennan...the guy who scrubbed Zer0’s passport records, was his lead “anti-terrorism” guy and now the head of the CIA.


40 posted on 06/19/2013 7:40:09 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

President Kennedy’s former press secretary Pierre Salinger went public an stated that he knew that it was downed by the U.S. Navy off the coast. I remember it well.

Watch this. All these people (former admirals, fighter pilots and witnesses) state it was a missile.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72WwTtjeHco


41 posted on 06/19/2013 7:41:09 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: DoughtyOne

Maybe, just maybe, the aluminum foil hat doesn’t suggest paranoia?


42 posted on 06/19/2013 7:42:42 AM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: DoughtyOne

Also re Kallstrom....HE was the guy who kept pushing “the white supremicists are doing it” story during the DC Sniper attacks.


43 posted on 06/19/2013 7:42:46 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: rarestia
There was a lot of talk at the time of a “streak of light” that went from the beaches in Jersey to where the plane was climbing at the moment of the explosion. The media dropped the whole “SAM incident” question VERY quickly.
I Remember seeing live interviews that night (within minutes of the crash) from people on boats that saw the strak(s) going UP to the plane.

It seems like for some unusual reason there were a lot of people out on boats that night.

44 posted on 06/19/2013 7:42:53 AM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: Menehune56

I don’t trust anything government tells us. And they are skilled at covering up.

However, there is no proof of anything at all here.


45 posted on 06/19/2013 7:45:29 AM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: Roccus

Okay thank you. He had slipped through on me.


46 posted on 06/19/2013 7:48:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: ogen hal

Not on this one...


47 posted on 06/19/2013 7:48:44 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: Obadiah
Yeah and Kahlstrom was a good friend of Rush's and Rush told us that Kahlstrom was a straight shooter and had no motive to withhold the truth.

Listened to Rush in those days with some regularity. He bought into the Kahlstrom BS bigtime. From that point forward I became much more skeptical of Rushbo.

This occurred in July 1996 months before Clinton's reelection bid in November.

That and the Atlanta Summer Olympics were just weeks away.

48 posted on 06/19/2013 7:49:03 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: Roccus

Yeah, I had forgotten about that. What a brain-trust.


49 posted on 06/19/2013 7:49:15 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Most plausible explanantion from the fertile mind of Cletus (only because it would make a great scene from a movie like a Bond flik).

USGove was selling shoulder-fired rocketry to a middle-eastern client (IIRC, Arafat was in toen at the time?). To help seal-the-deal, they took advantage of the military exercise of the coast of Jersey whereby the ME client could shoot the rocket at a dummy-target. No one would think twice about an explosion involving an already specified target in war games.

The ME client took advantage of a passenger plane takking off nearby instead of the target on the water.

USGov attempted to resolve the problem by following the “Three S’s”.


50 posted on 06/19/2013 7:50:08 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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