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Phone Record Gathering Story Blown Out of Proportion
nationalreview.com ^ | Andrew C. McCarthy

Posted on 06/06/2013 8:12:31 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

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1 posted on 06/06/2013 8:12:31 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Here’s what this idiot does not get,,whatever the “reason”,,whatever the “extent” of the surveillance, we can be certain the government is going to LIE about it.


2 posted on 06/06/2013 8:14:20 AM PDT by austinaero
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Didn’t take long for Obama’s MSM drones to get their talking points from the WH and then go forth to try and discredit the story, which DOJ just admitted was true.


3 posted on 06/06/2013 8:14:30 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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But then, as we read further, we learn that the telephone record gathering is proceeding under court orders, and that the surveillance actually goes back to 2006.

Which makes spying on private citizens right in exactly what way?

4 posted on 06/06/2013 8:14:45 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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IT’S BUSH’S FAULT!


5 posted on 06/06/2013 8:15:48 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Crucial national security measures, which operate on the forgiving assumption that government officials will conduct themselves honorably

((Snort))
6 posted on 06/06/2013 8:16:09 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Sub-Driver

NSA spying on American people is not blowing it out of proportion - could you imagine if Bush did it. He would be driven from office.

The only agency that is more secret then NSA would be DARPA.


7 posted on 06/06/2013 8:16:24 AM PDT by edcoil (If you can't change the rules, then ignore them.)
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To: Sub-Driver
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/820758.stm

This has been going on for decades.

8 posted on 06/06/2013 8:16:43 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Bingo!

The Guardian is perhaps the most leftist mainstream newspaper in the English-speaking world. This wasn’t a leaked information, this is a planted story for misdirection away from other scandals.


9 posted on 06/06/2013 8:17:01 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Sub-Driver

Why should we care what the guy from Weekend at Bernie’s thinks? /s


10 posted on 06/06/2013 8:17:33 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Timber Rattler

Not working. Liberal journalists have been complaining about this type of thing since Bush was President and they will have a hard time walking it back. The White House strategy is the same “Get on board or go under the train”.

Fun to watch. First they mortify and then they justify.


11 posted on 06/06/2013 8:19:13 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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“collection of telephone records, not wiretapping of telephone conversations, a critical distinction.”

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/bull.wav


12 posted on 06/06/2013 8:19:40 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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Moreover, requiring the government to go to a FISA judge makes it far more straightforward for Congress to conduct oversight to ensure that the Justice Department is not abusing its authority.

Only if all involved were acting in good faith, which we know they haven't and won't.

And anyway, when the GOP forced through the Patriot Act renewal in May 2011, John Boehner, Eric Cantor, and Kevin McCarthy PROMISED that things like this would not happen because of the FISA court, and now we find out that the court is basically worthless.

13 posted on 06/06/2013 8:20:20 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Sub-Driver

“shrieks”?

Talk about hysteria...


14 posted on 06/06/2013 8:20:26 AM PDT by moovova
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Out of proportion? Out of proportion? Is this IN proportion and unrelated:

Killing civilians and U.S. citizens via drone.

Seizing telephone records at the Associated Press in violation of Justice Department guidelines.

Accusing a respected Fox News reporter of engaging in a conspiracy to commit treason for doing his job.

Detaining terrorist suspects at Guantanamo Bay, despite promises to end the ill-considered Bush policy.

15 posted on 06/06/2013 8:21:37 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Get a special prosecutor right now!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

If you click through to to the comments at the original article, the author’s reasoning is pretty convincingly shredded.


16 posted on 06/06/2013 8:22:00 AM PDT by Stingray51
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To: Sub-Driver
I suggest Mr. McCarthy do the government a big favor and keep a log of all calls he makes- names of who he calls, date, time and duration - and hand the list over to the Federal government, everyday. Then get back to us and tell us how he feels about it. In the meantime, I prefer NOT to have my telephone activities MONITORED by FEDZILLA.

Oh and McCarthy can KMA. He's Un-American.

17 posted on 06/06/2013 8:22:20 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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LOL! This guy makes a HUGE assuption a bit later one -

I am not going to rehash the vigorous debate we had circa 2004-2006 over the NSA’s warrantless wiretapping and the president’s authority to seize information without judicial authorization. There is no reason to believe that is going on.

There's no reason to believe it's NOT going on, either Particularly with a pathological, narcissistic halfrican with delusions of godhood running the country!

18 posted on 06/06/2013 8:22:30 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am not a citizen of the United States, I am a citizen of the several States)
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Obama administration has never really had the moral authority to lead. Now most people are outwardly vocal about the lack of the morality to lead.

Our country is unraveling... and I am quietly wondering if that is the only way back to our roots.


19 posted on 06/06/2013 8:23:17 AM PDT by Truth2012
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To: MamaTexan

All the quislings are rushing to get on board so they can be on the good side of Uncle Thuggery.


20 posted on 06/06/2013 8:24:21 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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