Posted on 05/28/2013 6:33:21 PM PDT by EXCH54FE
Earlier this month, an audio recording surfaced of a 911 call coming from Josephine County, Oregon, that illustrates just how bad a situation can get when an area doesn’t have an adequate law enforcement agency or its citizens are ill equipped to protect themselves.
In the recording that was published by Oregon Public Broadcasting and occurred in August 2012, a woman asks an emergency services dispatcher for help, explaining that her ex-boyfriend — one who just weeks before beat her so badly that she needed medical attention — was trying to break into her house. The dispatcher told the desperate woman the only thing she could: to hide, take another beating and then ask her attacker to leave, or to call back during business hours because there were no officers in the area to respond.
Under normal circumstances a community would be outraged because of the dispatcher’s callous instructions, but everything she said was true. Since the Sheriff’s Department was grossly understaffed and underfunded, it could only afford to operate 8 a.m. to 4 p.m., Monday through Friday. And the incident occurred about 5 o’clock Saturday morning. Shortly after the woman hung up the phone, her ex-boyfriend pried open the door to the house, choked her and then raped her.
While this is an extreme example of what could happen, Sheriff Gil Gilbertson said, “There isn’t a day go by that we don’t have another victim.”
Although the recording is dated Aug. 18, 2012, it has earned fresh attention since it surfaced during campaigning for a May 21 special election regarding raising property taxes from 59 cents to $1.48 per $1,000 of property value. The tax levy would have raised funds for law enforcement and public safety, however, the community voted against the tax increase, according to the Associated Press.
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Funny Govt cannot comprehend simple math... they have working hours and sometimes respond in minutes...
I respond in feet per second and although those numbers range from 850 to nearly 4,000 the results are nearly identical.
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Not even the rogue agents under the Assistant Undersecretary for the Diversity Coordinator?
How can you live in an area with no police 24 presence, have a psycho boyfriend who beats you and NOT have a gun?
It’s an awful story all around but honestly, every person in that county should take her story to heart and PROTECT THEMSELVES.
Just make sure to do it during weekend hours.
Of course, it's the same at the local level as it is at the state and national levels. Make the cuts which will scare the people the most...public safety, the military, border patrol, corrections, etc. Don't cut any salaries, don't cut any government employee benefits, don't eliminate any giveaway programs for the gibsmedats.
But yeah, ultimately, we are responsible for our own protection. As the bumper sticker says, "I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop."
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
There's more wrong here than just not having police available. Everybody comes up with the solution of a gun (which if someone threatened me would be my strategy), but it isn't the only possible effective choice. Some others are:
(1) Has she no friends with guts?
(2) Has she no pastor?
(3) With no gun I'd go to the kitchen and start boiling some water in pots that have handles
(4) How about a small pan with kerosene or paint thinner and a box of matches?
(5) Another pan of mixed vinegar and shampoo, or a spray bottle of Lysol, with a hammer or knife, or other deadly instrument right at hand. Blind him and whack him. Then call the fire company to take him to the hospital, if he's still alive.
Dang it, the dispatcher could stir up the woman's resourcefulness. Why hasn't anyone here on FR come up with something more than caterwauling over the "no gun" situation? What would you do if you had a few minutes yet to prepare? I'd at least tell the dispatcher I intended to shoot the SOB (whether I had a gun or not) and see how long it took flashing red lights to appear.
Not having part-time constables or deputies distributed throughout the county is inexcusable. Hate to think of the many hours I spent training for and fighting fires as a volunteer fireman. A neighbor with a shotgun would be closer than a deputy, especially if his/her quickness to respond was prearranged.
Great phrase! Consider it stolen!
Hard to say, some strategies might disable him only temporarily and make him even madder (pepper spray, wasp spray). If she killed him would there be no cop until morning? How about calling the fire department or ambulance with “chest pains” or a “stovetop fire”?
Underfunded, I call that a lie. Local govts always have monies they use that underfunded excuse to extort taxpayers to pay more taxes.
Let's start with just how much does it cost the county for deputies: The average salary and benefits is $105,000 per deputy. This is compared to the average income per male worker in the county of $30,000. So the average deputy costs three times as much as the average employed person; a pretty sizable inflation of employment cost, simply because the person is a county employee.
But hey, we're talking deputies, they put their lives on the line, surely it is fair that they get a bit more..
Dispatchers pull down an average of $80,000, nearly three times average employment. Techs pull down only $80,000 as well, but most of them are half employees. Administrative services pulls down a far more respectable $45,000, but only works half the time.
You go on down the list, it is repeated time and time again - the county employees are looting the county treasury for every penny they can nab. In fact, I could find no county employee which pulled down a salary and benefits which was in line with the average earnings of the citizens of the county. The closest I could find was a full time county employee that only earned $28,000 in salary, but pulled down more than $18,000 in benefits.
Citizens, everywhere, need to re-take government from the employees and once again turn government into the servant of the people. While the department in this case refuses to offer any emergency services outside of ‘office hours’, you can bet that every one of them is enjoying well over a full month of vacation each year. Simply chopping out three vacation days from each employee would create the staff, at the same costs, to provide coverage over the weekends.
Better would be to drop all salaries, across the board, to be more in line with income of residents in the area, and hand them the full check, letting them pick and choose what benefits they want.
It took me minutes to find the budgetary solution to this issue. Which means to me that they feel no urge whatsoever from the public to correct this issue. While I am a great supporter of personal protection and security, the excuse that there's no money to have the office open is utter fiction. There is, they are simply too greedy to cede what is needed to accomplish it.
Or perhaps she should have had better taste in men.
I WOULD NEVER EXPECT THE POLICE TO SHOW UP IN TIME TO STOP A CRIME. I live in rural are and there are only two police officers on shift at a time for the entire county. Never would cross my mind to think they would get there in time to help!
Excellent! Who in their right mind would vote to nearly triple their property taxes, especially when the "services" provided by government tend to be welfare services for members of the Democrat party's moocher base who don't even own property?
Anyway, this woman had already taken a beating and had to know this assclown would probably show up again, but still didn't at least go buy a shotgun??
Outstanding post! Tragic as it is (and it is tragic for the lady assaulted) the reality of Josephine county is that it is rural and even a fully funded sheriffs department would take up to a half hour or more to respond to such calls. People living out of the city have to rely upon themselves even in the best of times. This article is simply using a horrific occurrence to push an agenda.
Josephine County (and several other Timber Counties in Oregon) knew for a long time that the timber subsidies were finite and had a specific expiration date. Some of the Counties chose to pursue a course of action that ignored that reality. They spent as if the subsidies were permanent and they failed to plan for when the subsidies would cease. When the subsidies stopped and the county was bankrupt, the first thing they do is try to soak homeowners for even more money to keep their bloated profligate ways going. I have no doubt that if they got what they asked for they would be coming back for more in the near future with their ways unchanged.
They have twice now tried to pass a property tax levy and the people have rejected it both times. They need to figure out what the County actually needs, rather than just trying to get back to what failed miserably.
For some reason the people of Oregon are fanatical about no sales tax. They seem to be more than happy to put their homes (or trailers) on the line via higher property taxes but god forbid they pay a 2 or 3 % sales tax. A 2 or 3 % sales tax with sunset provisions and or annual re authorization with funds to go solely for LEO should be a no brainer, but they just keep bringing back slighlty less odious versions of permanent and higher property taxes : (
Funniest post I’ve seen today. Thanks :P
If she had shot an killed the perp, the LEO’s would have been there in minutes!
Unless you are in Josephine County Oregon. Then the police will arrive sometime the next day, with the coroner.
You nailed it. County and city employees will continue to drain the taxpayers until the system collapses.
(1) Has she no friends with guts?
(2) Has she no pastor?
My nephew is a pastor in an organization that seeds and grows new churches in the Pacific Northwest, domestic missionaries. Apparently there are relatively few churches in that part of the country. You can travel mile-after-mile without seeing a church. It seems odd when on the East Coast we have a church of one faith or another on every other corner.
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