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No evidence global warming spawned twister
CNN ^ | 05/23/2013 | By Elizabeth Landau

Posted on 05/23/2013 8:19:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Yes, climate change is happening. But it's hard to say that the tornado that ripped through Moore, Oklahoma -- or any given tornado, for that matter -- was influenced by climate change.

Scientific research has not made a clear connection between tornadoes and climate change, said J. Marshall Shepherd, climate change expert and professor at the University of Georgia.

There is currently a much better understanding of how climate change increases the risks of droughts, heat waves and precipitation, he said. There are also indications that changing patterns may influence the intensity of hurricanes. But as far as tornadoes: There's just not a lot of information.

As far as the Moore tornado, "This tornadic storm, in my view, probably would have happened irrespective of whether there's climate change or not," Shepherd said. "The question is: Are we increasing the risk and probability of more extreme events in general as our climate differs?"

More research and discussion is needed about future warming and the environments that might produce storms, he said.

Trends in tornado occurrence over the last 50 years do not appear to have changed in conjunction with more greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and patterns of rising temperatures, Shepherd said.

Beyond the climate change question, meteorologists don't know a lot about why some thunderstorms produce tornadoes and not others. According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, only about 1% of thunderstorms generate tornadoes. However, tornado prediction is advancing and evolving.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: climatchange; globalwanking; globalwarming; oklahoma; tornado

1 posted on 05/23/2013 8:19:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

That Senator from RI should have kept his mouth SHUT.


2 posted on 05/23/2013 8:22:03 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

WOW! cnn gets it wrong again. Wait until james hansen hears of this. We all KNOW that glo-bull warming is the cause for whatever weather event occurs. NOT!


3 posted on 05/23/2013 8:23:40 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST mr. president(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder if “Bill Nye,The Science Guy” has ever seen evidence of tornadoes having occurred before the invention of the internal combustion engine in what is now “Oklahoma”.


4 posted on 05/23/2013 8:24:15 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Weather events used to be just weather. Now for Gore-Dims, weather = $$$$$ and votes.

You got to hand it to em, a brilliant strategy.


5 posted on 05/23/2013 8:26:53 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (The true Obama persona is emerging, the one from his first Presidential debate.)
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To: rktman

Perhaps someone is aiming HAARP at the Heartland...


6 posted on 05/23/2013 8:28:19 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: SeekAndFind
"Yes, climate change is happening"

Demonstrably false.

There IS a problem with global warming... it stopped in 1998

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3624242/There-IS-a-problem-with-global-warming...-it-stopped-in-1998.html

7 posted on 05/23/2013 8:31:45 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("The White House can't be trusted." - Ron Fournier, National Journal)
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To: Sioux-san

Well, OK didn’t go for king hussein. But I’m sure none of his staff told him about it or maybe it was a couple of low level free lancing folks who just love his high-ness.


8 posted on 05/23/2013 8:32:15 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST mr. president(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: SeekAndFind

Ow! Geez, I just stubbed my toe.

Climate change.


9 posted on 05/23/2013 8:32:36 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: SeekAndFind

But, but, Bill Nye the Science Guy said it happened because Man Made Global Warming causes Hot Air and Hot Air causes Tornadoes.

In related news, there were ZERO Tornados before the advent of the Industrial Revolution. Yeah, that’s the ticket.


10 posted on 05/23/2013 8:33:37 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (America has a two Party system, the Tea Party and the Communist Party.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is accurate to say the global warming(and cooling) are primary factors in nearly all weather events.


11 posted on 05/23/2013 8:34:40 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: Uncle Miltie

He said climate change, not global warming. Their new term is used so it can apply to anything and everything.


12 posted on 05/23/2013 8:34:41 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: SeekAndFind
"There is currently a much better understanding of how climate change increases the risks of droughts, heat waves and precipitation, he said."

There is?

Predict where drought conditions and flooding will happen for the next 5 years in the USA and I will believe you.

13 posted on 05/23/2013 8:38:52 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: listenhillary

“There is currently a much better understanding of how climate change increases the risks of droughts, heat waves and precipitation, he said.”

There is also a much better understanding of how climate change increases the risks of floods, cold waves and evaporation...


14 posted on 05/23/2013 8:46:01 AM PDT by Boonie
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To: SeekAndFind
"Yes, climate change is happening."

No need to read past that sentence.

15 posted on 05/23/2013 8:47:32 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Scientific research has not made a clear connection between tornadoes and climate change, said J. Marshall Shepherd, climate change expert and professor at the University of Georgia.”

But, after he receives his next grant from NOAA, the NSF or the EPA, Dr. Shepherd will be certain to ESTABLISH a “clear connection” between tornadoes and “climate change”.


16 posted on 05/23/2013 8:53:45 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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Climate changes. Nothing is really static.

Are humans contributing? Possibly.
Can the human impact be measured? Unlikely due to the amount of variables that are not measured or not measured accurately.

Is it high on the list of what we should be worrying about? Not at all.
Has it been politicized to push political agendas? Bingo - give the lady a cigar.

We have done much to clean up the human impact on our environment since the 1960’s and 70’s. The environmentalist factions needed new troops, new fears to whip impressionable young minds into joining their cause. You can’t see global warming/climate change. This made it the perfect bogyman to focus their attention. Because you can’t see it, you had to take the experts word that it was a problem that would lead to the destruction of civilization if we didn’t toe the line of the leaders.


17 posted on 05/23/2013 8:59:38 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: EEGator

Silly me. Weather IS “Climate Change”.

We have to implement Socialism now.


18 posted on 05/23/2013 9:11:36 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("The White House can't be trusted." - Ron Fournier, National Journal)
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To: listenhillary
Predict where drought conditions and flooding will happen for the next 5 years in the USA and I will believe you.

Drought - New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Texas.

Flooding - Upper mid-west, Pacific northwest, New England.

Where's my grant money?

19 posted on 05/23/2013 9:12:11 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: Uncle Miltie

Too rainy...climate change
Too dry...climate change
Too hot...climate change
Too cold...climate change
Tornadoes...climate change
Hurricanes...climate change...etc


20 posted on 05/23/2013 9:14:13 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: SeekAndFind

“Yes, climate change is happening.”

Apparently the climate changes all the time, and until the left discovered they could use it for social engineering, we simply called it weather, seasons, cycles, that damnable heat and damnable cold and pleasant days.


21 posted on 05/23/2013 9:32:48 AM PDT by pallis
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To: BlueStateRightist

Just another science bozo in it for the fat government paycheck


22 posted on 05/23/2013 9:47:31 AM PDT by Psiman (PS I am not a crackpot)
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23 posted on 05/23/2013 11:58:00 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: BlueStateRightist
They've already got sciency shills blaming the "meandering" jet stream on Arctic warming. It's been front and center since they tried blaming Sandy's left turn on the big dip in the jet (which is true) and tried connecting the big dip in the jet to the Arctic (which is silly)

On the latter they sometimes blame low sea ice which is dumber than dumb since the sea / ocean boundary was always somewhere, didn't really affect the jet and moving it won't affect the jet either. Their standard spiel for the Arctic connection is that the reduced Arctic to lower latitude temperature contrast causes the slowdown and therefore the meandering jet.

The basic problem with that theory is that the doomsayers got their models to predict the opposite up until about the mid-2000's. Then there were a poorly written paper or two with the new theory. Once the jet really started meandering in the late 2000's they discarded the early work and went with meandering. The basic problem is that meandering is much more likely to be associated with the low solar minimum in the late 2000's than any other factor.

Whenever I see Arctic mentioned in any of these stories I know they are junk. I know that Alaska has been cooling for more than a decade. I know that Siberia has been cooling for about two decades (strengthening the Siberian high). Sea ice still decreased but that is due a warmer ocean and is a lagging indicator. The cooling from the low solar minimum has yet to be substantially felt due to thermal inertia but will kick in seriously in a decade or two.

24 posted on 05/25/2013 4:09:06 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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Essentially, all negative events convincingly can be portrayed to the low information voter as blamable on conservative ideals and solved by increased government intervention. This is how the progressives have outplayed conservatives and are winning most arguments. The Kenyan Marxist spends most weeks playing this game using speeches to small segments (gays, college students, blacks, Hispanics, etc.) of the population. In total, he’s gained a majority of people who are now convinced they are victims and need HIS help. I’ve yet to see a conservative movement that uses a focused and simple message to counter the progressive approach. Romney certainly wouldn’t have reversed the concept of governmental greatness (look at his record in Massachusetts), and everyone knew this, so enough simply voted for the unabashedly honest progressive instead of the progressive in disguise.


25 posted on 05/25/2013 6:17:07 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: BlueStateRightist
The Kenyan Marxist spends most weeks playing this game using speeches to small segments (gays, college students, blacks, Hispanics, etc.) of the population. In total, he’s gained a majority of people who are now convinced they are victims and need HIS help

I am up visiting the blue state of Mass and when I look around at the old union guys I wonder how the heck Obama got their votes. It may well be these subtle lies that the world will end in thermageddon unless people vote for him and other enlightened democrats. Regarding Romney, i left Mass before he got elected here, but there is occasionally a protest vote here where they vote in some liberal libertarian or a RINO, but it never lasts. They always end up falling for the lie that free enterprise is causing problems even though their republicans never allow free enterprise.

26 posted on 05/25/2013 8:37:25 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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