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Live Thread: Benghazi Whistleblowers Hearing 11:30 A.M. EDT 5/08/13
House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform ^ | Wednesday, May 8, 2013

Posted on 05/08/2013 6:00:25 AM PDT by kristinn

Hearing details:

WASHINGTON – House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa today announced three witnesses who will appear at a full committee hearing, “Benghazi: Exposing Failure and Recognizing Courage,” on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, at 11:30 AM in 2154 Rayburn House Office Building.

“I applaud these individuals for answering our call to testify in front of the Committee. They have critical information about what occurred before, during, and after the Benghazi terrorist attacks that differs on key points from what Administration officials – including those on the Accountability Review Board – have portrayed,” said Issa. “Our committee has been contacted by numerous other individuals who have direct knowledge of the Benghazi terrorist attack, but are not yet prepared to testify. In many cases their principal reticence of appearing in public is their concern of retaliation at the hands of their respective employers. While we may yet add additional witnesses, this panel will certainly answer some questions and leave us with many new ones.”

Witnesses: Mr. Mark Thompson
Acting Deputy Assistant Secretary for Counterterrorism
US Department of State

Mr. Gregory Hicks
Foreign Service Officer and former Deputy Chief of Mission/Chargé d’Affairs in Libya
US Department of State

Mr. Eric Nordstrom
Diplomatic Security Officer and former Regional Security Officer in Libya
US Department of State

In October 2012, the Oversight Committee held the first hearing on the Benghazi attacks, which exposed denials of security requests and forced the Administration to acknowledge that the attacks were not sparked by a protest of a YouTube video, contrary to claims made by Obama Administration officials.

*** NOTE: Press seating will be reserved, but limited. Please arrive early (hearing room will open to press at 10:30 AM) to guarantee a seat. An overflow area will be available. ***

Hearing Details:
Wednesday, May 8th, 2013
“Benghazi: Exposing Failure and Recognizing Courage”
Full Committee, Chairman Darrell Issa, (R-CA) 11:30 a.m. in 2154 Rayburn House Office Building and streaming live at oversight.house.gov.

The hearing is also scheduled to be shown live on C-SPAN 3 and Fox News.

Live stream at C-SPAN.

Also check Fox News live stream.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
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To: ken5050
Carolyn Mahoney

"The ACLU gives her a 100..."

Its on Wiki.

2,901 posted on 05/09/2013 6:41:28 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: ken5050
"She’s not on the committee.."

Sheila Lee Jackson will find a way to be a part of these hearings.

She's an aisle hog and thinks the US flag was planted on Mars.

Don't get between her and a camera.

She quotes herself and gives herself a warm fuzzy feeling.

2,902 posted on 05/09/2013 7:15:50 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: Eagle of Liberty
"david mcfarland tried to get locals in benghazi to respond to the attack”

Is McFarland one of the people who does not want to appear before committee?

If so, what is his current status? What was his status on 9/11/2012?

2,903 posted on 05/09/2013 7:23:47 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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2,904 posted on 05/09/2013 8:05:07 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: NoGrayZone
Perhaps the Serenity Prayer may help at times...

Obviously, your Bible seems to have helped.

But there are some folks on Freerepublic that allow some things to get to them...

There are certainly things we can change...

There are certainly things we cannot change...

Wisdom is needed...

2,905 posted on 05/09/2013 8:57:13 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: golas1964
I believe Obama will run for a third terrm.

And I believe he will get elected.......again.

2,906 posted on 05/09/2013 9:23:16 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: hummingbird

“Does he have any specific power to protect the whistleblowers?”

Cummings could agree with Issa to subpoena (call on the carpet) any State Dept. functionary (now under Kerry) who would take any action to enforce the career dead-ending demotion and false adverse performance reviews in Hicks’s file that would prevent him from resuming his previous status.


2,907 posted on 05/09/2013 9:28:27 AM PDT by Seizethecarp ((Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: rockabyebaby

If he runs, he will. If he decides to hell with another election, he will remain president for life, the main stream media will celebrate for a month and the only Congrseeional opposition will be Trey Gowdy and Ted Cruze.


2,908 posted on 05/09/2013 9:31:52 AM PDT by sport
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To: no-to-illegals

IMHO this is the beginning of the end. Some Rs with spines - and some were displayed yesterday - who won’t give up - and the whistleblowers we heard, and ones in the wings - anything is possible.

Of course I want this to avalanche but I think it really may get the rocks rolling and once this blows wide open, it could open all kinds of other doors about crimes commited, Islamic influence in our gov, and just who the he!! is the guy in the WH.

(For those interested, much new info on this thread about that topic):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2913366/posts?page=1113


2,909 posted on 05/09/2013 9:53:58 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Mr. K
"When it started, as far as they knew, it could have been an all-out attack or nothing- they had no way of knowing if it was going to be a 5 minute protest ar the beginning of a month-long seige... so, how would they know how long they had to respond?"

Good point; it never occurred to me. I hope this comes out in the hearings that they had made a decision of no deployment - on the timing.

Did they pick out an arbitrary number?

2,910 posted on 05/09/2013 10:10:41 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: NoGrayZone
"Just noticed that. The blonde lady on his left seems so sad."

She really does. Is she the mother of one of the four.

Sunday is Mother's Day. That's got to be gut-wrenching.

2,911 posted on 05/09/2013 10:14:00 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: Diogenesis
How do you get those aerial photos?

Are they in real time?

2,912 posted on 05/09/2013 10:30:00 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: thouworm
"When did Hillary FIRST learn of Steven’s death? By whom?"

Did she wake Obama up? Did she contact Jarrett?

I'd like to see the timeline on who knew of ambassadors death and what kind of scrambling began.

2,913 posted on 05/09/2013 12:05:00 PM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: listenhillary
"Stevens had a meeting with the Syrian Ambassador the evening of the attack."

He also had a meeting with a Turkish potentate that day.

Wonder how much time elapsed between his meetings and the attack.

2,914 posted on 05/09/2013 5:15:41 PM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: Braak
"But yes, the security restrictions and Hillary! The plummeting sound we heard was her presidential chances."

If she is elected, we might as well call America the USSA........

2,915 posted on 05/09/2013 5:22:49 PM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: topher; Uncle Miltie
"I am not sure why you are bringing up sending arms to Syria?"

There is a theory that has floated around, from time to time, that Iraq, during the war, convoyed WMD's to Bekka Valley in Syria.

Satellite photos indicate this is possible and, why there no WMD's detected in Iraq.

They had already been shipped to Syria and buried under the sand.

This is how I recalled situation at any rate. YMMV!!

I'm on (sleepy) allergy medicine so if I don't sound coherent, you can blame the allergy medication.

Other times I am incoherent, I have to own it myself. <8^)

2,916 posted on 05/09/2013 5:37:43 PM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
I remember about the WMD's to Syria.

My thoughts on that is that Israel will probably take care of it. They do not want Al Quada or others to get their hands on them.

And the fact the Syrian government has recently used WMD's, it seems to verify the story during the Iraq war.

2,917 posted on 05/09/2013 6:50:54 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
My last reply to this (1165 of this thread) was really meant for Hummingbird.

In backtracking, I posted to the wrong person...

2,918 posted on 05/09/2013 6:52:37 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: lodi90
"Dems still grandstanding...."

Do they even know how ridiculous they sound and look?

When they hang out with each other, do each of them think OR feel that they are a cut above the rest. Because they are not.

2,919 posted on 05/09/2013 7:33:29 PM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: lodi90
"The kenyan sent a commissar from DC to keep an eye on Chafetz in Libya!"

"Lions, tigers and bears.....oh, my. Lions, tigers and bears....oh, my!"

Who was the DC commissar?

If he was being minded, did he know it?

2,920 posted on 05/09/2013 7:56:47 PM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
"....”she demanded a report on the Chafetz visit! She was very upset.”

Hills, put on your big girl panties and get over it.

You could try some ice...........

2,921 posted on 05/09/2013 8:03:15 PM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: ken5050
"ISSA, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!!..YOU AND YOUR COMMITTEE ARE DOING A GREAT JOB!!!"

*snicker*

2,922 posted on 05/09/2013 8:14:53 PM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: Yaelle
I think it is important also. But I have as yet to hear anyone ask it. Very disappointing because:

It really can't be answered and not answering would leave them exposed to more suspicions.

Think of this: 1) Admitting to knowing when it would end would mean they had knowledge of some sort of "agreement" which, of course, if true, giving an answer simply could not happem

or - 2) Admitting that they had no way of knowing when it would end only makes their statement that no one could "get there in time" look completely ridiculous.

So asking this question would box the Administration into a corner - how could they ignore the question/how could they answer it...but no one seems smart enough to think of that.

The bottom line is - everyone seems to be swallowing their excuse about there not being enough time - when no one is looking at how vulnerable to being a completely idiotic that excuse is.

2,923 posted on 05/09/2013 9:29:14 PM PDT by CitizenM (Obama - The architect of the decline of the U.S.)
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To: little jeremiah
I want this to avalanche but I think it really may get the rocks rolling and once this blows wide open, it could open all kinds of other doors about crimes commited, Islamic influence in our gov, and just who the he!! is the guy in the WH.

Thanks little jeremiah. The drips are not a torrent of water coming out of the dam but the number of leaks in the dam has grown, and this is good. May the dam fail soon protecting these criminals trying to kill America.

2,924 posted on 05/10/2013 3:58:27 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: RummyChick
"Who’s tweeting about Benghazi? Rich, middle-aged men and Chick-fil-A lovers wapo.st/18YFgKP

— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) May 8, 2013

Who's tweeting?

We know what "journalists" say.

Who are the "journalists"?

Agenda driven "journalists" on their kneepads to protect Obama, Hills and all things "democrat."

Drones...worse than drones. They are drones who are influential enough to create more drones.

2,925 posted on 05/10/2013 5:27:32 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: carjic
"These guys have things to say but no one is asking the right questions."

Right, carjic.

I'm not expecting the Spanish Inquisition, but I agree with you, no one is asking the right questions.

It is like dancing around the elephant in the room.

Why the timidity about all this?

The democrats are speaking their "thoughts" and running up the clock. Repubs better take that away from them and run the scorched earth option rat-a-tat-tat we know they have.

Not expecting the repubs to rat-a-tat-tat, the dems might lose their place on their talking points.

The facts, not the posturing, must come out cleanly and fully. It is up to repubs. to do this.

IMHO. (from my quarterback chair)

2,926 posted on 05/10/2013 5:43:44 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: Linda Frances
"Fox need to stop the “fairness”. Just let us hear it all."

It would be high-time. Why the timidity when you have the truth on your side?

I don't get it. The repubs could get all the information out and leave the dems in their dust. Why don't they - its like they go up to a point and then drop it - then go to next point of fact and drop that one, too.

Arghhhhhhh.........they are making a big mistake taking this route of going up to the point and then dropping it before fully examining it. IMHO

2,927 posted on 05/10/2013 6:17:39 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: Hoodat
"Sheila Jackson Me, this isn’t about democrat or republican.

In Demspeak, that is the equivalent of waving a white flag".

*snicker*

2,928 posted on 05/10/2013 6:26:12 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: Scotswife
"I hope people revisit Hillary’s description of “friendly” Libyans lovingly carrying the Ambassador to the hospital in a desperate bid to save his life (cough cough)"

Outrageous....you do not drag a wounded through the streets to go to the hospital. The man may have even already died.

"Friendly." "Lovingly." Arghhhhhhh......She thinks we are all stupid and that the great she can mold the narrative and we won't get it.

2,929 posted on 05/10/2013 6:39:48 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: newfreep
"watching hearings, just bought a chick-fil-a sandwich with a thousand dollar bill I got for my 48th birthday @washingtonpost"

*snicker*

2,930 posted on 05/10/2013 7:12:38 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: Truth2012
Remember when Obama threatened us all- saying that anyone “going after Rice” was going “going after HIM”..."

OK, Mr. Tough Guy, I guess we will "go" after Rice and then "go" after you.

That sounds good to me...we will thank you for being available.

How about that, Sweet Cheeks..........what a blowhard.

But, exactly who is behind the curtain, calling all the shots?

2,931 posted on 05/10/2013 7:52:14 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: no-to-illegals
"classified report was not allowed to be read by witnesses. HUGE! "

Whoa, Whoa, WHOA!

This HAS to be revealed!

Who didn't allow them to read the report...this IS HUGE...whoever did should be indicted for witness tampering at the very least.

I wonder how much the witnesses fear for their careers, for their lives.

Their fear levels must be off the chart!

And, by the way...where ARE the witnesses?

Hillary from Chicago. Obama with strong ties to Chicago.

Everything that these two people do is so Chicago mob-style.

Those poor witnesses must be so stressed - by what happened in Benghazi and how they are being treated now.

PTSD? I really ache for these witnesses. Maybe they are afraid s***l****.

I would be if the power of the presidency on down was breathing wickedly and threateningly down my collar!

2,932 posted on 05/10/2013 8:11:20 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: Mr. K
"Thats what’s freaksy about this lunatics- in the middle of killing A MAN they get a boner???"

But, there you go. The people who do these things are barbaric, uncivilized, and a bunch of other things. They are subhuman.

2,933 posted on 05/10/2013 8:16:01 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: hummingbird

Amen hummingbird ... Amen.


2,934 posted on 05/10/2013 9:33:24 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Chickensoup
Michelle Malkin did go on Hannity on FoxNews the night of the hearings Wednesday, and basically said Hillary Clinton was a liar.

She has not yet done a piece on the Benghazi hearings, but some other folks are heating this up.

Also, the US Military and British are on alert (right now) over a deteriorating situation in Tripoli, Libya.

2,935 posted on 05/10/2013 10:34:06 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: penelopesire
"Shameless nonsense. At least she is asking questions.....is this a bribe? Asking him where he would like to be posted?"

Her "where-would-you-like-to-be-posted" question was totally creepy.

Thrown in to unsettle the hearings or just stupid?

2,936 posted on 05/10/2013 10:39:01 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: thouworm
"Gowdy is going to get another round. If Repubs were smarter and less self-centered, some of them would have turned their time over to Gowdy, Chaffetz, Issa, etc."

Great idea. How can Issa be reached? He could mull it over with the R side of the aisle.

Run it up the flag pole and see who salutes....

2,937 posted on 05/10/2013 10:45:38 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: JoeProBono

Compare the faces of the 4 who were murdered against the two.


2,938 posted on 05/10/2013 10:48:40 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: JoeProBono
Hillary is starting to look like Sen. Harry Reid in that photo!
2,939 posted on 05/10/2013 10:50:32 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: hummingbird

Sounded like a threat wrapped up in a bribe to me! Totally creepy! The abuse of power coming from this administration and the democrats is breathtaking. They seem to have no fear of prosecution or even being called to task for the most flagrant violations of their oath and the laws of this country anymore.

I have been watching politics closely now for a number of years and have never seen anything like the current crop of criminals running this country right now...NEVER!!


2,940 posted on 05/10/2013 10:53:49 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: RummyChick
"It could be she was just trying to seem sympathetic and show Democrats aren’t after the whistleblowers"

RummyChuck - I'm going to really think this through.

My 1st thought was as you post. But, in less than 30 seconds, I said:

NAH..........

I'm not feeling too charitable towards the dems after their theater today.

They are playing with people's destinies and people's lives and not just in Benghazi.

2,941 posted on 05/10/2013 11:02:31 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
"Ms. SPEIER offers Hicks a job? LOL That was totally inappropriate and shows how Dems operate; BRIBERY"

Yes, totally inappropriate.....these kind of deals are usually not so obvious and public.

Usually, it is the dem way to take this kind of business in a quiet, well-lit restaurant. Or at a funeral. Tony Soprano style.

Reeks of bribery. And, threats.

2,942 posted on 05/10/2013 11:10:14 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: penelopesire; Viennacon
"The dems have nowhere to go on this....the California dem hack just proved it...resorting to an implied threat in the guise of a bribe.

Stunning!!

========================================

Brazen! Without talking points, they are pretty "ig-nant".

They tell life stories about themselves to run the clock down and then they accuse reps on being like bullies.

2,943 posted on 05/10/2013 11:50:52 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: NoGrayZone
"I leave my front door open, with my leg stuck between the almost closed door so my indoor kitties don’t get any ideas....even thought they RUN from the open door!"

------------------------------------------------

We have a rule in the house - disagreements must be in a calm, measured tone or we need to take it outside where the dogs can't hear us. Our two dogs get scarred whenever there is a loud fight on TV or Mr. h and I are having words but aren't yelling. They hide.

I'm not a really noisy person, but I yelled so much during the hearing that the dogs hid.

I shouted at the TV using various expletives (mild) at the dems and cheered on the Reps when they got a good fact in.<

This must be what Mr. hummingbird feels about Spring Madness - whatever its called - brackets and what-nots.

Dem sensitivities - SHUT UP! - did dems pick the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.

Keep those kitties safe and sound inside!

2,944 posted on 05/10/2013 12:27:36 PM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: World'sGoneInsane
"Connolly was bragging about his travels and trip to Libya. He talked of the poor security before 9-11. You think he would have done something about it."

It is his way of inserting himself into history! His words will be written down that he "talked of the poor security".

Connolly belongs to the Party of Talkers, not the Party of Doers.

2,945 posted on 05/10/2013 12:39:05 PM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: hummingbird

I remember watching the whole thing unfold on Twitter.

The pictures being posted were not jibing with the “narrative” being presented on the MSM stations.


2,946 posted on 05/10/2013 1:29:13 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: kristinn

Impeachment File on B. Hussein Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, a legal citizen of Indonesia.


2,947 posted on 05/10/2013 9:13:16 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: livius

And I sure hope they have more hearings
And I sure hope they have more hearings
And I sure hope they have more hearings
And I sure hope they have more hearings

Hearings are a waste of time without followup action, besides if they don’t happen on the 5:00 O’Clock news, they didn’t happen.


2,948 posted on 08/07/2013 5:13:50 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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