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The Commodity Massacre Is Back Today — Gold Tanks Again
TBI ^ | 5-1-2013 | Matthew Boesler

Posted on 05/01/2013 7:30:15 AM PDT by blam

The Commodity Massacre Is Back Today — Gold Tanks Again

Matthew Boesler
May 1, 2013

WTI crude oil is getting hit pretty hard this morning. Right now, it's down about 2.8%, trading at $90.85 a barrel.

Copper is getting hit too – it's down about 3.2%.

Gold, meanwhile, is down 1.5%, trading at $1450 an ounce.

In fact, the entire commodity complex is pretty heavy in the red today, with the exception of natural gas. Silver, platinum, palladium, corn, wheat, sugar, coffee, soybeans, gasoline, and heating oil are all coming under selling pressure.

Overnight, we saw weaker-than-expected manufacturing data out of China and weaker-than-expected export data out of South Korea. Those releases, coupled with a worse-than-expected employment report from ADP this morning, seem to be weighing on commodities as concerns over global growth re-ignite.

Next up is ISM Manufacturing at 10 AM, which could weigh further on commodities if it comes in weaker than the market expects.

The chart below shows WTI crude oil futures today.


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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commodities; copper; gold; goldprice; investing
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1 posted on 05/01/2013 7:30:15 AM PDT by blam
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2 posted on 05/01/2013 7:31:03 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

3 posted on 05/01/2013 7:32:17 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Buy when it hits 1,250. Just my two cents.


4 posted on 05/01/2013 7:33:27 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: blam; SAJ

I am sure SAJ will be able to cite bigger /CL moves than this, but this is pretty big!

The story is copper. IMHO, this is actually bullish for gold...gold should be down $50-60 if it was really correlated to the commod complex. $20-25 down? Bah!


5 posted on 05/01/2013 7:33:32 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: blam

For crying out loud.


6 posted on 05/01/2013 7:37:09 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

The real question is if/when the American dollar tanks and people will feel a lot better then with their commodity investments. The rest is just noise.


7 posted on 05/01/2013 7:37:29 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: OrangeHoof
There Will Be Haircuts (Bill Gross)
8 posted on 05/01/2013 7:42:47 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Are bonds rising, counter to what happened on Patriots’ Day?


9 posted on 05/01/2013 7:44:39 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: OrangeHoof

I am a big fan of commods, but you can’t be all the way into gold (thinking the USD is toast) or guns or toilet paper. There will be opportunities to buy things on deep sale with green cash.

And...with all the talk about a weak dollar, it has been VERY strong of late since the yen has devalued so badly.

I always insert my cautionary warning against the “dollar is going to hell” thing. It is NOT so. One day, it may, but it is not responding to ultraprinting like one might think.

But the copper chart, again and again and again...tells an ominous story.


10 posted on 05/01/2013 7:59:30 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: blam

Oil futures down almost $3.


11 posted on 05/01/2013 8:00:34 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder; blam
Crude has moved more than $3.00/bbl on numerous occasions. Basis June futures, this is a 3.xx% move--in an historical context, this move is serious but not catastrophic.

How can I say this? Easy. In the great crude crash that started 20 August 2008, crude dropped more than five per cent in a single day not less than 12 separate times between 20 August and the end of the year. The largest single-day drop was 8.74% on 9 October.

Now, should crude continue its slide -- and if the economic numbers keep coming in so horribly, this is quite possible -- at some point we will see a day or two of capitulation selling, whereon the traders just say "MARKET!" and take whatever price they're given. On such days, I should not be at all surprised to see a 7-8% daily drop.

For this commentary, I only analysed the June futures, which are the "front-month" at this time. Nevertheless, it is essentially inarguable that, on crash days, the behaviour of prices all across the strip was more or less identical.

I agree with ASD that copper is telling us more about the state of the world economy than crude. As noted in a previous post, we have a simply untold supply overhang, particularly in China. I should imagine that copper prices over the next 6-12 months will venture considerably lower.

No view on gold prices, because that mkt is supremely manipulated and price signals of the "ordinary" sort have been invalid for some time.

Good trading to you!

12 posted on 05/01/2013 8:00:48 AM PDT by SAJ (What is the next tagline some overweening mod will censor?)
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To: blam

It’s Fed Day today. I don’t expect any unexpected news to come out of their announcement, but Da Boyz often take advantage.

OTOH, they tried to take the general stock market to new highs this morning, on top of yesterday’s rise, and they failed at that.

The good news is that I just got my fuel oil bill this morning when they filled my tank, and the price was way down from the last delivery. I’ll take that, thanks—although no thanks to Bammy, who tries to increase it every chance he gets.


13 posted on 05/01/2013 8:09:14 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SAJ

Interesting comment on Gold market being manipulated. IMHO, is it Soros, Buffet, et al? I will go to my grave knowing that the huge drop in the market mere days before the 2008 election was also manipulated - by Soros. He did it to Britain and he’s an evil person.

If some don’t know George Soros...... look him up.


14 posted on 05/01/2013 8:10:12 AM PDT by WaterWeWaitinFor (Would Winston Churchill stand still for all this nonsense?)
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To: blam
From Yahoo: "The finds include 64 ships, 16-foot-tall statues, 700 anchors and countless gold coins and smaller artifacts. "

Noting the discussions over the previous months about metal versus paper, I wonder if the recent gold finds in an Egyptian bay (metal!) have any bearing on today's fall. Sounds like a lot of ships and potentially a lot of gold.

15 posted on 05/01/2013 8:11:37 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: blam

what is your bloomberg id? Im dcbryan1@bloomberg.net


16 posted on 05/01/2013 8:18:09 AM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: blam
Looks like another buying opportunity to me. While the big online dealers like Provident and Apmex are out of American Gold Eagles, this may be a good time to buy numis. I am looking at $10 Liberty Gold Eagles. Also, check this out:

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2013/5/1_Embry_-_This_May_Create_A_Massive_Upside_Breakout_In_Gold.html

17 posted on 05/01/2013 8:18:48 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To heck with the price of paper gold/silver; people will abandon this Ponzi when they can't get real for paper at all (you know Ft Knox and other storage are getting robbed bare). When the paper price approaches zero, they'd have to buy a quadrillion tons to make a buck. Real PM’s will be a different price when our crooks run plum out and the primary markets will change from NYC and London. For now, overseas buyers will just continue to take advantage of stupidly low real PM prices. Another source of wealth plundered and flushed down the drain by the most greedy NYC/London crooks and lickspittal regulators ever. When the PM's are gone, they will turn to pensions, savings, insurance pools, etc, to plunder like MF Global, Cypress, etc.
18 posted on 05/01/2013 8:21:35 AM PDT by RHS Jr (Pity the banksters when Jesus comes)
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To: OrangeHoof

The real question is if/when the American dollar tanks and people will feel a lot better then with their commodity investments. The rest is just noise.
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Ain’t gonna happen.

Not with the oil patch adding nearly 1 million barrels a day this year of oil production—and predictions of similar growth for the next seven years or so.


19 posted on 05/01/2013 8:23:15 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: blam

Still looks like “panic buying” to me. /s

Once again, I’m glad our currency isn’t tied to this shiny metal.


20 posted on 05/01/2013 8:23:51 AM PDT by DannyTN
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