[Mrs. Don-o]

I see what you're saying. We live in a very corrupt society.

One result is that "Natural Law" reasoning, once accessible and persuasive to anybody with a reasonable familiarity with human nature, now commonly fails, at least rhetorically, because both "reason" and "human nature" strike people as being either entirely fictitious, or impositions on their liberty.

[Straight Vermonter]

"Natural Law" reasoning, once accessible and persuasive to anybody with a reasonable familiarity with human nature, now commonly fails, at least rhetorically, because both "reason" and "human nature" strike people as being either entirely fictitious, or impositions on their liberty.

Wonderfully said.