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What We Know About Boston Marathon Bomb Suspects Dzhokhar And Tamerlan Tsarnaev
buzzfeed.com ^ | April 19, 2013

Posted on 04/19/2013 4:58:51 AM PDT by Colofornian

Multiple sources have identified Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, 19, as the remaining suspect in the Boston marathon bombings.

His brother, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, has been identified as the first suspect and died overnight following a firefight with police.

NBC News' Pete Williams said earlier Friday morning that the two suspects likely had "foreign military training," and had been in the country for about a year.

Later he said they were brothers, and added, "They were legal permanent residents. They were in this country legally, at least a year. They appear to be from Turkey, possibly Chechens from Turkey. That seems to be the nationality here."

Just before 7 a.m. Friday morning, the Associated Press confirmed Williams' reporting and naming Tsarnaev. Born July 22, 1993, according to Williams, Tsarnaev attended Cambridge Rindge and Latin School and has a Massachusetts drivers' license.

The brother, although NBC initially reported he was 20, was 26 and named Tamerlan Tsarnaev. He died overnight in the firefight with police, suffering from "blast and potentially gunshot wounds ...probably a blast injury [and] possibly shrapnel" throughout his trunk.

(Excerpt) Read more at buzzfeed.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: banglist; bombers; boston; chechen; mit; russian; tsarnaev
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To: Resolute Conservative
" Where are two college aged losers getting that type of material? "

Yeah, the people want to know.

Maybe ? could it be ? perhaps ?

1. Fast & Furious ?

2. The weapons that were smuggled in the failed Benghazi deal debacle smuggled from either Eygpt ? Libya ? to Sryia ?
151 posted on 04/19/2013 6:34:31 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Jim Noble
Where did the blast come from?

I'll take "C-star" for $500, Jim.

152 posted on 04/19/2013 6:36:44 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

Hiding in plain sight. Who would have thought? Hmmm, I thought we had a few hundred thousand fed employees supposed to look for that kind of thing?


153 posted on 04/19/2013 6:37:28 AM PDT by Riflema
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To: ken5050
“They both voted in Cambridge..”

Registered Democrats...Probably.

Voted for Obama...Probably.

This leaves the one question unanswered...Will they vote from the grave in 2016?

154 posted on 04/19/2013 6:37:59 AM PDT by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Under “World View” simply said “ISLAM”.<./I>

I suspect the 'press' will downplay this truth for political reasons... truth might hurt their butt-kissed democrats...

155 posted on 04/19/2013 6:38:16 AM PDT by GOPJ (The screed of so-called journalists: 'If it doesn't fit, you must omit.' - - freeper Vigilanteman)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Under “World View” simply said “ISLAM”.

I suspect the 'press' will downplay this truth for political reasons... truth might hurt their butt-kissed democrats...

156 posted on 04/19/2013 6:38:28 AM PDT by GOPJ (The screed of so-called journalists: 'If it doesn't fit, you must omit.' - - freeper Vigilanteman)
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To: P-Marlowe
Islam is not merely a religion, it is a political movement.

Even worse, it's a political movement ordained by, indeed, demanded by, their god, Satan.

157 posted on 04/19/2013 6:40:22 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: ican'tbelieveit
" Fox reported dad, still in Chechnya, visited with reporters that kids were expected home on “holidays.” That would be how they got in and out of camps. "


Well, well, well, how about that ?

SO ? surely Hillary Clinton and Big Sista 2 from DHS can't deny they knew about those 2 Muslim thug terrorists travel plans to Chechnya to get military style terrorist trainee progam.


Remember ? the state department has to OK visas to other countries.

Hillary and Big Sista Janet knew that these guys where going to Chechnya.

Hillary can't run on a national securty platform in 2016 because this administraion let these guys in this country and were fully aware of these guys activities.


158 posted on 04/19/2013 6:43:51 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: silverleaf

Chris Plante on WMAL: They have Massachusetts drivers licenses and are registered voters. LOL. Talk about an immigration and voting system that is *completely* broken.


159 posted on 04/19/2013 6:44:43 AM PDT by kevao (.)
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To: from occupied ga
In every TV news room, in every major newspaper's editorial staff, in the offices of Reuters and AP there is vast and bitter disappointment that the two Boston bombers were not white christian conservative males.

The press had turned into an unthinking hateful mob. This display of hatred for their fellow citizens - without any proof - was sickening.

160 posted on 04/19/2013 6:45:22 AM PDT by GOPJ (The screed of so-called journalists: 'If it doesn't fit, you must omit.' - - freeper Vigilanteman)
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To: silverleaf
the whole family came here in 2002

In other words, the types of long-term illegals that Marco Rubio's "pathway to citizenship" was designed for.

161 posted on 04/19/2013 6:46:31 AM PDT by kevao (.)
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To: Riflema

Just heard in the news that there are SWAT teams in monkey county Maryland,, something big is going on there.


162 posted on 04/19/2013 6:47:10 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: newfreep

That link leads to a discussion for which you have to Facebook; I don’t. A so-called peaceful Muslim commented about extremism; I could not reply as follows: A true Islamist considers you an apostate, as worthy of death as any of us Infidels, if you eschew Jihad and martyrdom.


163 posted on 04/19/2013 6:49:11 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: MuttTheHoople
"We know more about their past than we do about Barack Obama's."

Post of the day.

164 posted on 04/19/2013 6:49:28 AM PDT by magellan
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To: Colofornian

Will no one use the word Sunni Muslim to describe these guys?


165 posted on 04/19/2013 6:50:18 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: American Constitutionalist

Well, well, well, was my response too. My other thought is that they weren’t born here, but immigrated here, that means they were exposed to terrorism culture before coming here, in the formative years.


166 posted on 04/19/2013 6:54:00 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Dallas59

This evening Obama will be on national tv telling us this has nothing to do with islam and stuff. It’s a good thing he is trained liar.


167 posted on 04/19/2013 6:54:13 AM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: gaijin
Never forget the politicians who were blaming average white American for this - never forget them.

None of us will be able to forget them - even if we wanted to... we felt their 'over the top' hatred. They hate us because our political beliefs are different than theirs... Liberals are narrow minded haters.

168 posted on 04/19/2013 6:54:28 AM PDT by GOPJ (The screed of so-called journalists: 'If it doesn't fit, you must omit.' - - freeper Vigilanteman)
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To: American Constitutionalist
Who trained these guys ?

If they did not leave the country, where did they attend summer camp, of have a summer "internship"? I've heard rumbles about Islamic training camps right here in the U.S.

169 posted on 04/19/2013 6:55:22 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

Here is their mother. A criminal too:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2311653/Mother-Boston-bombing-suspects-arrested-year-stealing-1-600-worth-clothes-Lord—Taylor.html


170 posted on 04/19/2013 6:55:46 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: dontreadthis

Oh so now they’re switching from the Saudi group to the Chechen group eh? Follow the bouncing ball. Is this a new diversion. Guess I’m coming inflate on this conversation...


171 posted on 04/19/2013 6:56:42 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: ican'tbelieveit

***They are saying these kiddos in US for 10 years.***

Their length of ‘residency/citizenship’ status is most confusing. Their passport activity would settle it.

On the irony - or more likely the deliberate placement of the Lord & Taylor bomb. If the report can be believed: Their MOTHER WAS ARRESTED FOR SHOPLIFTING at that store.


172 posted on 04/19/2013 6:57:15 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: American Constitutionalist

It’s not big. It’s just his uncle, supposedly, to talk to.

Of course he could be in on it. Makes me wonder just how much of this family came over to US?


173 posted on 04/19/2013 6:57:26 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Jim Noble; Mrs. Frogjerk

from http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23621&posts=1

By Fulton Sheen; On Being Human: Reflections, On Life and Living, 1982 - composite of writings going back to 1943 under 'Bishop Sheen writes', pg, 288.

The Political Kiss of Betrayal

No one has ever written a philosophy of betrayal, unless it was Machiavelli who told kings and princes how to deceive their fellowmen. But his counsel was not actual betrayal, but just sheer worldly, pragmatic advise in which the useful became identified with the true. Actually, the pattern and the model of betrayal has been written -and forgotten. Take, for example, the principle upon which the Soviets (and G20 leaders today) conducted their international policy. It can be reduced to three principles: 1. Materialism; 2. Coexistence; 3. Betrayal at the moment of greatest friendship and coexistence.

First , materialism. Its basic principle is denial of God and the soul. God must be denied, because if there is a power other than the Party or the dictator, then men have other rights and duties under liberty than those given them by the Party (Like thinking about self-reliance; self-governance). The foundation of our rights and liberties as given in the Declaration of Independence is that they are given by God. The soul must be denied too by the Communists, because the soul contemplates and thinks for itself. But any personal thought which cannot be socially controlled must be denied by Communists in order that there be only one thought-namely, the Party thought.

The second principle is coexistence. This is a Soviet word, not the word of a free people. The latter never ask themselves if they should coexist. Such talk would be nonsense between Canada and the United States. Coexistence is a Soviet suggestion that relations which exist between the free people of the world who believe in decency, morality, honesty, and truth should be extended to the Soviet Union which Lenin said must use every lie, stratagem, ruse, and deceit in order to foster world revolution.

The basis of coexistence talk is given in an article published in the Soviet Union in 1954 by a certain Leontyvev. His argument was that the atomic bomb makes war mutually destructive of the powers which engage in it. The Soviets can no longer rely upon their mighty armies and those of the satellites to conquer the world. Hence, there must be "long periods of coexistences" with democratic and free people, until the historical moment arrives for the world conquest of communism. (Are we there yet?) The third principle is that the betrayal of those who fall for coexistence must be at the moment of greatest intimacy and friendship (Obama's promise). For example on August 31, 1939, the Soviets signed a pact recognizing the independence of Estonia, Lithuania, and Latvia. On this occasion the Soviet Government published the following: "These pacts of mutual assistance strictly stipulate the inviolability of the sovereignty of the signatory powers, and the principle of non-interference in each other's affairs. We stand for the scrupulous and punctilious observance of the pacts on the basis of complete reciprocity, and we declare that all the spreading of nonsense about Sovietizing the Baltic countries is only to the advantage of our common enemies, and of all Soviet provocateurs."

The following year, the Soviets annexed the three countries. Is this pattern of betrayal new? Or does it follow a line which brought upon the world its greatest blackness? The model of deceit and betrayal was actually set by Judas. First of all, avarice was not his basic sin; it was materialism, or denial of spiritual values. The first mention of avarice as regards Judas comes at the very end of his life, though he is described as a traitor much earlier when Our Lord spoke of Himself as God, and foretold that he would suffer and die, rise and ascend again into heaven. When He refused to be King of the masses, when He refused to establish a kingdom based on earthly bread, Judas broke, for he had nothing but contempt for the spiritual.

Then came coexistence. Never once during the public life did anyone know that Judas was the guilty man; when he spoke of the poor, some of the disciples joined in with him; and at the Last Supper when he left the table, it was thought that he had gone out to give money to the poor or buy food for the feast. His coexistence was so clever that only John knew who he was-and, of course, the all knowing Lord. Even the best were deceived.

The third stage came at the moment of greatest affection, when Judas kissed Our Lord and then delivered Him over to the soldiers. Sacred things can be betrayed only by some mark of affection and esteem. LET AMERICA BEWARE!

To pleas for coexistence, America must ask, "Wilt thou betray with a kiss?"

174 posted on 04/19/2013 6:57:43 AM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: Colofornian

The so-called reporters on TV are twisting themselves into knots to avoid saying the ‘M’ word.


175 posted on 04/19/2013 6:58:17 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
" It’s not big. It’s just his uncle, supposedly, to talk to."

Hillary Clinton " what difference does it make " ..
176 posted on 04/19/2013 6:59:30 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Sounds like some auto fire weapons were used towards the end.


177 posted on 04/19/2013 6:59:35 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (What do Sequester, Mayan Apocolypse, Y2K & Gorebull Warming have in common? They were/are 100% BS!)
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To: nikos1121

Interesting even Fox in their obsession with this story doesn’t seem to mention much in the way of “Moslem”.


178 posted on 04/19/2013 7:00:32 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: sodpoodle
" Their passport activity would settle it. "

Big Sista Janet " that question is not worthy of a answer " .
179 posted on 04/19/2013 7:00:36 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: frogjerk

Thanks for posting this! Awesome!


180 posted on 04/19/2013 7:01:03 AM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: Resolute Conservative

have to make up some little notes/cards that accompany your spit: tolerate this.


181 posted on 04/19/2013 7:01:14 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: American Constitutionalist

Mocking me?

Big to me is shoot-out or arrest. This seems nothing but a discussion with relative.


182 posted on 04/19/2013 7:01:53 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: kevao

I bet they were paid to be diversions from the Saudi Arabian royalty connection only they didn’t know they were going to really be shot at and killed while acting out their roles. It would be typical 0


183 posted on 04/19/2013 7:01:55 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I have found Fox to be hammering that point home.


184 posted on 04/19/2013 7:02:00 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: GOPJ

Speaking to soon or not the Demgorats have just lost the 2014-2016 elections.


185 posted on 04/19/2013 7:02:17 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: To Hell With Poverty
Um, a little inconsistent with the stars n bars there isn’t it? I mean one used negatively followed by one in an implied positive light?

WADR, it can be viewed both ways, legitimately. Of course, I'm only a damnyankee...

186 posted on 04/19/2013 7:02:22 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: rbg81

Seeing as how this is Massachusetts - how did these immigrants get an FOID card and permits to purchase the guns and ammunition?


187 posted on 04/19/2013 7:02:54 AM PDT by glorgau
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All I can say is if these guys were on the loose in my neighborhood and the police were telling everyone to stay inside and lock their doors, I sure would want to be able to have a semi-automatic gun with a high capacity magazine to protect myself and my family....


188 posted on 04/19/2013 7:03:00 AM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: American Constitutionalist
How did these guys manage to get in and out of terror training camps without getting attention?

By going to one in Minnesota, Michigan or Illinois?

189 posted on 04/19/2013 7:03:31 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: BunnySlippers

That fits what someone said about that culture being anti-work. Living off of gov bennies in Russia.


190 posted on 04/19/2013 7:04:26 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: frogjerk

LOL I love having an answer to those stupid asinine stickers on my car. Mine has twin towers burning, commie symbol, Moslem symbol, KKK guy, upside-down cross, etc, ended by a ?.


191 posted on 04/19/2013 7:04:59 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Colofornian

It is amazing how Mass attracts terrorists.
Liberalism, diversity, open boarders, socialist colleges....


192 posted on 04/19/2013 7:05:17 AM PDT by cp124 (Government is value subtracted.)
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To: SW6906

amen!


193 posted on 04/19/2013 7:05:22 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: the OlLine Rebel

No, not mocking you, just adding to what you said with a heavy does of sarcasm towards the MSM and liberals.


194 posted on 04/19/2013 7:05:41 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: ican'tbelieveit

His father, in Russia, said he “was a true angel”. Smirk!

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/apnewsbreak-boston-suspects-father-true-angel


195 posted on 04/19/2013 7:05:52 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Although Fox did mention whether we should call them domestic or foreign terrorists given their time in the US, to which I replied to the TV: you call them islamic terrorists.


196 posted on 04/19/2013 7:06:27 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: newfreep

That’s odd, in another place he wrote how he wanted to BECOME an American citizen. So the guy voted? Gosh, don’t have a clue who he VOTED FOR.


197 posted on 04/19/2013 7:06:38 AM PDT by madison10
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To: American Constitutionalist

Sorry. I’m trying to do things too fast!


198 posted on 04/19/2013 7:06:58 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: from occupied ga
I have a liberal Facebook friend from high school (he got liberal after I stopped hanging around with him).

He just wondered about a motive. I told him they were Chechen muslims, who kill people for not being muslim.

His response - "Oh, I was really hoping they weren't muslim."

I told him I was sorry they let him down.

199 posted on 04/19/2013 7:07:03 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: jsanders2001
" I bet they were paid to be diversions from the Saudi Arabian royalty connection only they didn’t know they were going to really be shot at and killed while acting out their roles. It would be typical 0 "

Usefull idiots never realize that they are being used by those who are in power until it's to late.
200 posted on 04/19/2013 7:07:36 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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