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North Korea 'finishes missile launch preparations' and warns foreigners to evacuate South
Express ^ | April 9, 2013

Posted on 04/09/2013 5:00:00 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

North Korea 'finishes missile launch preparations' and warns foreigners to evacuate South

NORTH Korea has completed preparations for a mid-range missile launch from its east coast, officials in Seoul have revealed just hours after foreigners living in South Korea were warned to quit the country.

North Korea's Asia-Pacific Peace Committee said in a statement monitored in Seoul that foreign nationals should find out in advance where they can take shelter as well as examine evacuation plans to leave the country.

"We do not wish harm on foreigners in South Korea should there be a war," said the KCNA news agency, citing its Korea Asia-Pacific Peace Committee.

The remarks come as the communist country has repeatedly said it will turn Seoul and Washington into a "sea of fire" and launch pre-emptive nuclear attacks against its enemies.

(Excerpt) Read more at express.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blather; bluff; bluster; brinksmanship; hearditbefore; justtalk; missile; nkorea; provocation; psywar; yadayadayada
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SK military speculates that NK may fire as many as 10 missiles. If so, they probably fire variety of missiles: Musudan, KN-08, Rodong and what else. That will be a firework rather than missile test launch, if it happens.
1 posted on 04/09/2013 5:00:00 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

In a sensible world, we would have already acted, decisively, and announced “Pre-emptive strike? Yeah. We know what those are.”


2 posted on 04/09/2013 5:04:44 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
North Korea 'finishes missile launch preparations

That was quick.

This is a liquid fueled rocket. It takes time to fuel up and the process is detectable from space. US authorities know what is going on.

It is rare to empty these birds once they have been fueled up. Looks like some fireworks ahead this week.

3 posted on 04/09/2013 5:06:00 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...
Here is one of the worst case scenarios for Kim Jong-eun: 1) fires missiles, and Japan shoot them down. 2) conducts the 4th nuclear test and it goes wrong(fizzle, radiation leak, or triggering unexpected earthquake in Sino-NK border area,) 3) the restarted graphite nuclear reactor breaks down(catch fire, or serious structural problem,) and all of them occur in this April.
4 posted on 04/09/2013 5:06:09 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: ClearCase_guy

They will fire them out to sea. Russia will see how we react.

Then Kim goes to his room to pout.

Or he starts a conflagration of biblical proportions.


5 posted on 04/09/2013 5:07:05 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

My bet is on Aegis destroyers from Japan or S. Korea knocking one or two of these missiles down. Can’t wait to see the video...


6 posted on 04/09/2013 5:10:13 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: Vermont Lt

He is out of the missile test business.

Any missile not fired toward China is presumed to be targeted and a hostiles act and shot down.


7 posted on 04/09/2013 5:12:01 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Does NK have the capabilities to fire Nuke missiles from a submarine?
9 posted on 04/09/2013 5:13:48 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Hurry up Spring!!!!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

My guess is that is exactly what he is up to so he can claim US aggression to keep his belicose rhetoric rising. Meanwhile, why does he need a missile? Seems to me just loading a nuke onto a ship and sending it to a US coastal city would be almost as effective as a direct hit would do, no?


10 posted on 04/09/2013 5:14:39 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
My bet is on Aegis destroyers from Japan or S. Korea knocking one or two of these missiles down. Can’t wait to see the video...

The launch pads are right on the coast. This means that an Aegis could be located 13 miles away, although getting out past artillery range would be smarter, lets say 25 nm.

At 25 nm, the Aegis might not even require an SM3 to knock down the missiles (using the SM2), as the launch would likely climb up and over teh Aegis position.

12 posted on 04/09/2013 5:40:27 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Stooopid!
Can’t even spell dung properely.
Shouda be Kim Ding-Dung.


13 posted on 04/09/2013 5:43:24 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Obama will write a stern letter to the UN if Seoul is whacked


14 posted on 04/09/2013 5:51:37 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SampleMan
The launch pads are right on the coast. This means that an Aegis could be located 13 miles away, although getting out past artillery range would be smarter, lets say 25 nm.

Only the SM-3 can intercept a ballistic missile, and the intercept point MUST BE OUTSIDE THE ATMOSPHERE (the actual seeker and final stage are not aerodynamic.)

The problem is, fired near the launch point, an SM-3 Block I can't catch up to a ballistic missile in a tail chase; it's too small and too slow.

Unless the missile launches fail, everyone is just going to be waving at them as they go by, even if they are launched over Japan.

Boost phase intercept only would work with a ginormous missile - one was under development (the KEI) but it was canceled. It wouldn't have fit on a US Navy surface ship.

15 posted on 04/09/2013 5:51:49 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: SampleMan

Rock & Roll !


16 posted on 04/09/2013 5:52:39 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This article says possibly tomorrow. Also, that if it goes over open water, the US will not shoot it down. But, the timing may still be speculation.

http://www.rjkoehler.com/2013/04/09/n-korea-to-launch-missile-tomorrow-report/


17 posted on 04/09/2013 5:55:50 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: HollyB
if it goes over open water, the US will not shoot it down.

They should "shoot it down" on the launch pad.

18 posted on 04/09/2013 5:58:06 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

bttt


19 posted on 04/09/2013 5:59:54 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: TigerLikesRooster

20 posted on 04/09/2013 6:03:53 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Strategerist

I’m not so sure that an SM2 couldn’t perform an intercept from short range when it has the missile rising off of the pad. A rocket of that size has to accelerate up to speed, while the SM2 has a much faster rate of acceleration.

From 15nm, the rising ICBM might not have even attained Mach 2 yet at time of intercept. Remember that modern intercepts don’t fly a rainbow trajectory.

But it would absolutely depend on the ICBM’s rate of acceleration and when it performed its tip.


21 posted on 04/09/2013 6:10:39 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: JoeProBono
Obama: What are you pointing at general?

General: Oh, that. That is our new forward observation post. It is made up of all those homosexuals you made us admit that were in the military. Since they wanted to serve, we put them right out front so they can.

22 posted on 04/09/2013 6:11:59 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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23 posted on 04/09/2013 6:20:05 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Nice graphic. Does anyone know which of those missile types are being fueled? My guess would be the longest range missile depicted - Taepo Dong 2?


24 posted on 04/09/2013 6:47:28 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Wow. That’s a whole lota dongs! Whats their fixation on dongs?
25 posted on 04/09/2013 6:47:30 AM PDT by TheGunny
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To: TheGunny

And how come they always seem to want a bigger dong?


26 posted on 04/09/2013 7:04:43 AM PDT by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“My bet is on Aegis destroyers from Japan or S. Korea knocking one or two of these missiles down. Can’t wait to see the video...”

It certainly would be an excellent opportunity for quality target practice, wouldn’t it?


27 posted on 04/09/2013 7:04:48 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: plain talk
The two missiles moved to the east coast were Musudans, which is another variant of the Nodong-2 that's on the chart. From my understanding, its range is between the Nodong-2 and the Taepodong-1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BM25_Musudan


28 posted on 04/09/2013 7:22:40 AM PDT by Domalais
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Trident sub Officer of the Deck on 1MC: "Captain and E.O. report to Con immediately. Incoming flash traffic received"

Captain authorizes openening safe for message codes authenticity. EO, Comms officer and Officer of the Deck agree that message is authentic. Captain agrees that message is authentic.

Captain authorizes OOD to sound General Quarters. "General Quarters, general quarters. This is not a drill. I repeat this is not a drill. All hands report to your general quarters stations."

Weapons/Con, prepare strike package 1 Jung Fatboy. Say again, prepare strike package 1 Jung Fatboy. Spin up tubes 1 through 13.
Con/weapons, spin up tubes 1 through 13, aye. Time to launch 15 minutes on my mark.
Weps/Con 15 minutes, aye.
Weapons/Con, you have authorization to retrieve launch key from safe. Captain has his key.

Captain, "Chief of the boat, takes us to launch depth."
Chief of the Boat, "Launch depth, aye Captain."

Officer of the Deck. "Captain and Weps have launch keys and authorization under CIC orders and Navy regulations to "glass the f*cks".

Tick...tick...tick...tick...

Or something like that.

29 posted on 04/09/2013 7:24:05 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Don’t you think it would be easier to bomb it on the pad? Why doesn’t the US do this?


30 posted on 04/09/2013 7:26:05 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: 4yearlurker
"Does NK have the capabilities to fire Nuke missiles from a submarine?"

No.

31 posted on 04/09/2013 7:26:08 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Why doesn’t the US do this?

Because we're pussies.

32 posted on 04/09/2013 7:26:27 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
"if it goes over open water, the US will not shoot it down."

"They should "shoot it down" on the launch pad."

All depends on the trajectory. With the NORKS threatening everyone in past days, I suspect AEGIS will kill it once it leaves the pad.

33 posted on 04/09/2013 7:28:46 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: dfwgator

Because NK can make a parking lot out of Seoul. Plus I’m thinking that Puggsly is fishing for money, not war. He wants Obama to pay him to behave.


34 posted on 04/09/2013 7:33:36 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: A Navy Vet

+1 for the Crimson Tide reference!


35 posted on 04/09/2013 7:44:41 AM PDT by NOVACPA
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This will be an intel coup for China and Russia.

NK does their test launch, we respond as though it was a hostile launch and use AEGIS, SM, COBRA JUDY, Patriot, and lots of other goodies. We shoot down the missile. B2 and F22 fly around.

China and Russia get all of our radar signatures and frequencies, a look at CONOPS, an assessment of capabilities, plus pictures of our hardware in use and track data. Plus lots of unencrypted radio chatter, facebook pictures from cell phones, and twitter postings (Guess what I did today?)

Obama looks like a hero, and NK promises to retaliate.


36 posted on 04/09/2013 7:45:50 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Strategerist
Too bad the Airborne Laser project got cancelled by Obama two years ago.
37 posted on 04/09/2013 7:54:28 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: AppyPappy
Because NK can make a parking lot out of Seoul.

Then what? Once the NK artillery pieces are finally knocked out, North Korea gets turned into a parking lot.

38 posted on 04/09/2013 7:56:25 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625
North Korea gets turned into a parking lot.

Which would actually be an improvement.

39 posted on 04/09/2013 7:58:23 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DBrow
China and Russia get all of our radar signatures and frequencies, a look at CONOPS, an assessment of capabilities, plus pictures of our hardware in use and track data. Plus lots of unencrypted radio chatter, facebook pictures from cell phones, and twitter postings (Guess what I did today?)

I think you have the reason for this. It would be low-cost for NK, have high benefits for China and Russia, who probably have signals intelligence units parked up and down the NK beaches.

40 posted on 04/09/2013 7:58:44 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

“Could” is the operative word here. When the NORKS blow one of these off they have no clue where it will end up. I wish one would land in Bejeing and then maybe the ChiComs would jerk lil Kim’s chain.


41 posted on 04/09/2013 8:04:36 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: PapaBear3625

And that is different from now.....how?


42 posted on 04/09/2013 8:23:34 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Expect the 479 S Korean managers to be “expelled” tomorrow. The 4 Chinese managers will stay on with maintenance crews for the annual spring cleanup.

The 53,000 NK workers and their 100,000 family members will be quite busy doing spring planting.

The SK workers posed a major security risk for the NK Second Army Corps.

Sat photos show that all four army corps reserves mobilized for combat exercises over the past few months have turned in their weapons to their local Ministry of People’s Safety on 1, April and went back to work gathering fertilizer for spring planting.

Worker and Peasant Red Guards have to grow their own food. Sat photos show they did not carry weapons and backpacks in the fields or in the streets after 1, April as they are required when mobilized about 1, February. Now they are all carrying shovels and hoes.

When mobilized, the Guards relocate to caves and tunnels in the mountains, and now they have gone back to garrison.

Remember, the DPRK are absolute experts at incitement and propaganda. The S Koreans often deliver translations of NK statements that are not accurate.

NK statements always have a backdoor way out that lets them walk backward from hardline statements. That rarely comes through the SK translations.

Posters about self defense have been replaced with posters about the economy.


43 posted on 04/09/2013 9:27:38 AM PDT by gandalftb
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To: TigerLikesRooster

American special political constituents and leaders of the ‘80s, ‘90s and present time hated the generations of our parents and grandparents and displayed a hysterical and illogical fear of the unlikely possibility nuclear exchange resulting from international relations of the ‘40s, ‘50s and ‘60s.

The same political constituents and leaders have no problem with the much increased likelihoods of nuclear exchanges that they’ve brought to us, as they use questionable tactics in efforts to distract from such concerns. They’re more worried about freight fuel prices than the continued survival of our countries.


44 posted on 04/09/2013 12:04:18 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Hey Tiger I saw Freepers fave NK babe Pyongnang patty she is working patrotic speech on BBC world news ROFL


45 posted on 04/09/2013 12:12:01 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Probably 24 hours, give or take a little time, and counting from there, according to Pyongyang’s comments to foreign diplomats. As it is shortly before 2:00 pm (14:00 hours) Mountain Time on April 9 now in the USA, it’s shortly before 5:00 am (5:00 hours) Seoul time on April 10. Tomorrow or after, sometime. Could be as early as shortly after midnight, tonight in Seoul, perhaps?


46 posted on 04/09/2013 12:49:02 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: 4yearlurker

47 posted on 04/09/2013 2:11:24 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: familyop

6:13 a.m. Wednesday morning in Seoul right now....


48 posted on 04/09/2013 2:13:31 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: 4yearlurker

Highly unlikely....


49 posted on 04/09/2013 2:17:31 PM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet.)
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To: A Navy Vet

Shared a room during corporate training with an ex-submarine naval person from the UK. He said when the technicians were performing checks on the firing mechanisms, an officer held a loaded gun to their heads. If true, now that was work pressure.


50 posted on 04/09/2013 4:08:26 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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