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Musk: SpaceX to Attempt Falcon 9 First Stage Water Landing
Parabolic Arc ^ | March 28, 2013 | Doug Messier

Posted on 04/01/2013 6:12:17 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer

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This is a big deal. If SpaceX can get even a reusable first stage going, they will have the cheapest access to space. Neither Russia, China, India, or the ESA will be this cheap. They can own the market for anything the Dragon2 can launch.
1 posted on 04/01/2013 6:12:17 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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This is exciting.

It also opens up private ventures in asteroid mining. If AM could be commercialized, that would honestly eliminate resource shortages in all areas.


2 posted on 04/01/2013 6:14:08 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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And they can start by mining the asteroids that are coming AT us!


3 posted on 04/01/2013 6:15:39 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: Vince Ferrer
SpaceX Grasshopper
4 posted on 04/01/2013 6:16:03 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: bigheadfred

You mean like this on....


5 posted on 04/01/2013 6:16:12 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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How about a flight where the engines work correctly or they at least reach the planned orbit on schedule before they start touting to be the best.


6 posted on 04/01/2013 6:20:25 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Compared to nasa I think they are doing great.


7 posted on 04/01/2013 6:22:53 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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And they are doing fly-then-fix as they gather data from the crashes. Musk expects to lose 1st stages.

No better way to figure out what doesn't work than to break things.

Beats heck out of the US military procurement fix-then-fly with everchanging specs that cost trillions.

/johnny

8 posted on 04/01/2013 6:23:59 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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Privatized space exploration has done more in the last 5 years than NASA has done since it last landed on the moon.


9 posted on 04/01/2013 6:26:36 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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They made their end-game milestones. Lose and engine and delay the orbit beats what Nasa does. Like just blowing up.

Oh yeah, Nasa doesn't actually have a way to orbit with something that can be man-rated anymore. They spent all their money on theoretical studies instead of hardware.

/johnny

10 posted on 04/01/2013 6:27:25 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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NASA was doing what they’re doing 40 years ago.

The landing model they are talking about is a copy of what NASA was doing 20 yrs ago and the craft looks almost identical so they were probably given a lot of data.

Sure glad our tax dollars are paying for this politically connected company.


11 posted on 04/01/2013 6:27:34 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Yeah they barely made their orbit the last trip. Quite a triumph.


12 posted on 04/01/2013 6:28:50 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Yes NASA doesnt have a way to put a man into orbit, neither does SpaceX. Despite Obama taking all the NASA money and giving it to SPACEX.


13 posted on 04/01/2013 6:30:45 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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How about a flight where the engines work correctly or they at least reach the planned orbit on schedule before they start touting to be the best.

Have they had any failures as bad as these yet?

Early U.S. rocket and space launch failures and explosion

Numerous US Launch Failures

14 posted on 04/01/2013 6:30:56 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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NASA has basically stalled in space exploration. At least the privateers are making steady progress at a faster clip, than what NASA has been doing.

Your criticism will only be considered valid, if they don’t move beyond what NASA has done.


15 posted on 04/01/2013 6:31:42 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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Yeah imagine that, rockets were just being invented and things went wrong. WOW

60 years later they can’t make their orbits.

Why do you guys celebrate this Obama bundler getting these sweet deals?


16 posted on 04/01/2013 6:32:39 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Not hard to move beyond something that was stopped when their budget was pulled. Oh and they are forced to help you and to accommodate you.

Amazing how that works.


17 posted on 04/01/2013 6:33:52 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Perhaps NASA should have considered commercializing their services sooner, eh?

That way they wouldn’t be held hostage to government funding.


18 posted on 04/01/2013 6:35:16 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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Its not commercial (aka free market) when the govt pays for it.


19 posted on 04/01/2013 6:36:11 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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NASA was doing what they’re doing 40 years ago.

The landing model they are talking about is a copy of what NASA was doing 20 yrs ago and the craft looks almost identical so they were probably given a lot of data.

Sure glad our tax dollars are paying for this politically connected company.

From my understanding, they investigated and settled on designs that NASA rejected decades ago. NASA was not doing this 20 years ago, they were choosing not to do this, and went with the ultimately more expensive shuttle design. SpaceX has taken the design and is making a lot of progress in a short amount of time. Would you prefer that the cheapest access to space be from Chinese rockets?

20 posted on 04/01/2013 6:36:35 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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