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To: Maelstorm; All
First off the title is a BOLDFACED LIE.

The father of the 11 year-old is quoted in the same article that "we haven't had any physical threats" and the second child is FOURTEEN, not 11. Only one 11 year-old is mentioned in the piece so the Brietbart editor is trolling and engaging in Leftist-style propaganda.

I can't overlook the irony of screeching about higher standards, morality and so forth while using base techniques and subterfuge we supposedly abhor in the other side.

As for the 11 year old's testimony I actually agree with this general sentiment quoted: " this is gross and offensive, and not just to gay people. single mothers, widowers, divorced parents... i mean, just shut the **** up until you until you've seen a little more of the world, puppet child.”

That's PRECISELY what she is, a puppet child and I despise the use of children as props when the Left or the Right do it. We all see the children paraded by union thugs at strikes or even protesting in favor of abortion. She's saying my father was nothing because he lost both parents at a young age or my uncle is less of a man because his mother was widowed. Well, little miss know-it-all, who is going to swoop in and force all those children into two heterosexual parent situations for their own good? The State?

The 11 year-old is not offering testimony on relevant first-hand experience. She's not a product of an upbringing in one of those "same sex households. She's a prop. Shame on her father Jeff Evans for exploiting her in this manner.

As for the 14 year-old, she clearly has no idea how far traditional marriage is from "such a special thing" any more. Even before she was born, traditional marriage had become a throw away institution with some 40% of children coming from divorced heterosexual parents. As a People we don't even raise an eyebrow at the Baby Mamma / Baby Daddy culture of our cities.

She's living in the make-believe fantasy world of a child and NOT reality. As such, her naivete has no relevance to the problems of the real world and it's the job of government to act and react to real world.

She too is just another prop exploited by adults who didn't stand against the erosion of the cultural value of marriage during the last few decades and are now aghast when some others want IN instead of, as heterosexuals have done en masse, getting or staying OUT of marriage.

Don't use children in this manner even for what you see as a just cause. If we're going to demand better of our opposition, the ends must not be allowed to justify the means.

I look at some of the arguments tossed out and it's like your house burned down but you won't let somebody help you rebuild because you don't like the car they drive.

26 posted on 04/01/2013 9:37:59 AM PDT by newzjunkey (bah)
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To: newzjunkey

I didn’t make up the headline but that is really just splitting hairs. I mean would the headline “threats against children have been better” or “threats against an 11 year old and a 14 year old’? The question is do you think its ok to lob death threats or threats of rape against children for expressing support for children being raised by both a Mom and Dad in a heterosexual relationship rather than having two Mom’s and Donor or Two Dad’s a surrogate Mom etc.

Do you screech about higher standards for the “other side” which you clearly are on? Hmm maybe I missed the posts. Actually I can’t find one criticism of the homosexual thought police by you or their excesses when they claim “to be born that way”. Maybe I missed it. Hey I understand you support the homosexual agenda and that’s ok, its a free county we don’t have to agree on that. My question is do you really want schools teaching kids to wonder about whether they are really a girl or boy inside or whether they like boys while discussing the gonads of dolphins with grade schoolers?

I think the fact that you are so enraged isn’t because of the headline but because this exposes the essential threat to liberty of the progressive sex movement of which gay rights and same sex marriage is a part. Hell everyone can offend traditional families and Christians and conservatives all day long but let a homosexual be offended and its like one has committed a cardinal sin which can only be resolved by a public pillorying. It is funny to see sexual radicals who routinely present themselves in the most offensive and obscene fashion in the streets in front of children playing the victim of offense.

That you call these children puppet children exposes you for what you are. I feel sorry for you that you feel the need to support this kind of attack on children because you seem like someone who is fearful that maybe people will wake up and see the threat of the progressive gay movement and ssm marriage and how intolerant it is. Gays have every right to live how they wish but they don’t have the right to redefine marriage or the entire culture for everyone but that is exactly what they are trying to do and good people who disagree have an equal right to oppose them.


39 posted on 04/01/2013 10:51:37 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: newzjunkey
She's living in the make-believe fantasy world of a child and NOT reality. As such, her naivete has no relevance to the problems of the real world and it's the job of government to act and react to real world.

That sounds quite close to the argument leftists employ to premise their push into the public education realm. REALITY?

What reality are you referring to -is it an objective reality? Is it a reality best defined by the parents of the child or is it one vest defined by YOU?

Is this reality a sex positive reality that provides not only a sexual education but as well sexual training, free contraceptives and abortions with no need for parental consent? Where is the brave new world, this utopian vision of REALITY that you advocate?

You always seem to support the homosexual agenda -one would think that even a neutral bystander such as you would at least oppose the agenda by actions 50% of the time. Maybe your opposition is evidenced by silent reflection?

YOU are the puppet as far as I am concerned -a useful idiot puppet whose useful idiot postings have been read by me here on FR for many years.

40 posted on 04/01/2013 11:24:40 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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