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Steubenville rape prosecutor confirms threats to her, her family
Trib Today ^ | 03/18/2013 | staff

Posted on 03/18/2013 9:52:27 PM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles

Edited on 03/19/2013 4:27:12 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Jet Jaguar

Why the sympathy for these rapists? There was none for the lacrosse players.


121 posted on 03/19/2013 5:56:53 AM PDT by Thorliveshere (Tais deau sá taghdedaul!)
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To: Hildy

True as well as demonized, discredited and made totally “uncool” morality, modesty and celibacy.


122 posted on 03/19/2013 5:58:55 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

This attitude is the reason some men rape women and it’s sad to see some of our Freeper’s supporting it.


123 posted on 03/19/2013 6:02:41 AM PDT by CityCenter (No matter how good your PR is, you can't outsmart the truth.)
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To: Thorliveshere
Why the sympathy for these rapists?

I have seen no "sympathy" here.

What you call sympathy, I call "doubt."

124 posted on 03/19/2013 6:07:57 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: papertyger

Yes, a choice.

One chooses to be vicious when taking physical advantage of someone who is weaker or vulnerable, be it molesting a boy or girl. It’s called a “crime”.

Gay men’s excuses are that they’re spreading ‘love’. Straight men’s excuses are that she had it coming. Yeah, right!

Whoever the victim, male or femaile, vulnerable or weaker, it doesn’t matter. Rape and/or murder are violent crimes, period.


125 posted on 03/19/2013 6:17:37 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: papertyger

Ok, but a judge who has seen ALL the evidence and is tasked to adjudicate according to the law has determined these two to be guilty! Case closed.


126 posted on 03/19/2013 6:20:38 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: SatinDoll

So you wish to mandate “civility?”


127 posted on 03/19/2013 6:22:37 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: matginzac
Ok, but a judge who has seen ALL the evidence and is tasked to adjudicate according to the law has determined these two to be guilty! Case closed.

Judges, nor juries, are not above misguided paternalism.

128 posted on 03/19/2013 6:25:41 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: papertyger

So true (case in point: Roberts and Obozocare) but if that is so in this case, we have a system that deals with it accordingly. You could debate that this system is corrupt due to activist judges but it is what it is.
Got to wonder why no jury trial for these two...because they are juveniles?
Or did their lawyers know they would be dealt with more harshly by a jury?


129 posted on 03/19/2013 6:33:47 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: papertyger

The law regarding consent is clear. If she’s passed out, she doesn’t have the ability to consent by law.

That’s not a new concept. It doesn’t matter if she was trashed or not. She was guilty of being stupid. The perps were guilty of being evil.


130 posted on 03/19/2013 6:37:39 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: papertyger
Don't put words in my mouth.

Free will, and the liberties we are still allowed to enjoy, present us with opportunities to freely exhibit civility.

In Muslim-dominated cultures, women and children have “protection”, supposedly of their families. Doesn't seem to help much. “Honor” killings happen frequently and at the hands of other family members. Nevertheless, civility and kindness towards others does exist in those cultures; it is just very hard to find during periods of civil unrest and war.

Here in the U.S., we have laws about rape and murder in a justice system based on equality before the law. Those laws do not say that only the morally pure shall be treated as victims. It doesn't matter if the victims are a homeless man and alcoholic, a runaway child trying to live on the streets, or a prostitute attempting to earn a few bucks. As imperfect as the system may be, equal rights is better than no system at all!

Statutorily required civility would be unenforceable. That shouldn't prevent families from trying to rear their children to be moral individuals who respect others.

131 posted on 03/19/2013 6:56:29 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Hildy
... prime time TV tonight...show after show of the crudest sexual content you’ve ever seen. It would be considered soft porn a decade ago.. Now, it’s routine. Women are shown as sex objects, nameless, faceless bodies that hop in and out of men’s beds without any feeling or intimacy. Music videos and popular culture show women as whores, shown only as the sexual objects they represent to men and referred to in the most crudest of ways, not only by men, but by other women!

And then we are shocked, horrified to see young men doing exactly what they’ve witnessed for most their lives without shame or remorse ...

Spot on! Your post reminds me of the Senate testimony of Archbishop Charles Chaput following Columbine ...

When we answer murder with more violence in the death penalty, we put the state's seal of approval on revenge. When the most dangerous place in the country is a mother's womb and the unborn child can have his or her head crushed in an abortion, even in the process of being born, the body language of that message is that life isn't sacred and may not be worth much at all. In fact, certain kinds of killing no longer even count officially as "killing." Certain kinds of killing we enshrine as rights and protect by law. When we live this kind of contradiction, why are we surprised at the results?

132 posted on 03/19/2013 7:18:24 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: papertyger

“My position is that all parties were too inebriated to credibly support a rape charge, and I’d rather see ten guilty go free than one innocent convicted.”

Really? My understanding is that the boys weren’t even slurring their words when speaking. Just how drunk were they when they were driving her around from house to house?

The young victim was unable to give consent. There is proof by way of pictures and witnesses.

Yet you still favor the rapists rather than the victim.

Absolutely stunning.


133 posted on 03/19/2013 7:19:13 AM PDT by GSD Lover
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To: Darren McCarty
The law regarding consent is clear. If she’s passed out, she doesn’t have the ability to consent by law.

Thus far, I have seen no evidence she was uniformly comatose throughout the ordeal, nor that her prior behavior had any bearing on what transpired.

As she claims to have no memory of her involvement, or lack thereof, there seems to me to be no positive evidence to support a charge of rape due to the spotty and inferential nature of the evidence that does exist.

I do not condone destroying the lives of somewhat advantaged teenagers to satisfy the altruist mob with less than comprehensive evidence.

134 posted on 03/19/2013 7:19:20 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: butterdezillion

Depends on the drug, how the individual reacts to the specific drug, and what else is in her system.

I have no memory of three days while on pain medication in the hospital. None. Yet, according to family, I was aware and speaking to them.


135 posted on 03/19/2013 7:24:03 AM PDT by GSD Lover
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles

I just hope the two convicted rapist boys can put their lives back together after being victimized by that vicious slut. <sarcasm


136 posted on 03/19/2013 7:27:14 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: SatinDoll
Don't put words in my mouth.

Your denial of inescapable conclusions is not "putting words in your mouth."

Rather, your reticence to address the logical consequents of your statements is the root of your accusation.

Statutorily required civility would be unenforceable. That shouldn't prevent families from trying to rear their children to be moral individuals who respect others.

Nor does it. Yet you clearly advocate statutory redress for violating those lessons.

137 posted on 03/19/2013 7:30:34 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: papertyger

Uh-huh.

I suggest you need help with your reading comprehension AND psychopathy. Have much problem relating to women?


138 posted on 03/19/2013 7:43:50 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: GSD Lover
Yet you still favor the rapists rather than the victim.

God help us if advocating for exculpatory evidence, or disputing the dominant legal theory becomes "favoring" the accused.

139 posted on 03/19/2013 7:46:25 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: AppyPappy; Smokin' Joe; expat1000; AllAmericanGirl44; GeronL

It would be my estimation that a 16 year old girl, unless she were brain dead to start with, would not get drunk with a bunch of guys who she did not know that were also drinking and probably smoking dope and not be aware that they wanted to get laid.

You could argue that she thought they were all gentlemen, but that defies belief. Had she never been on a date before?

I haven’t been on a date in almost 50 years, but thinking back, I seem to remember getting slapped a lot back then. And I didn’t drink and I didn’t chew and I didn’t go with the girls that do...

It was true then, and I have no reason to believe it’s not true today, that boys will be as good (or bad) as their date lets them be.

The female is, always was, and always will be the keeper of the gate, so to speak. If she abdicates that responsibility by getting drunk (knowing what could happen), then yes, she has slut written all over herself.


140 posted on 03/19/2013 7:53:20 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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