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To: fwdude
Please explain the “Jesuits” thing. A liberal sect?

The Jesuits have lost their way. I was at a Kateri Conference up in Gonzaga University, a Jesuit school, and in their bookstore they had a book, "God - our Father and our Mother'

Seattle University philosophy professors Daniel Dombrowski and Robert Deltete have authored a book entitled A Brief, Liberal, Catholic Defense of Abortion, in which they argue that the unborn child is not "a human person in some morally relevant sense" until very late in pregnancy when "sentience" begins, a term they use to define the capacity to perceive pain. In one part of the book, they go so far as to assert that performing an abortion on a "nonsentient" child is no more troublesome than mowing the lawn. Dombrowski and Deltete also argue that their pro-abortion position is "more compatible with Catholic tradition than the current anti-abortion stance defended by many Catholics and by most Catholic leaders," which rests on a "shaky foundation" and should be "altered or dropped."

A Jesuit Catholic University decides that “domestic partners” should get the same benefits as married couples. Notice that the term of “domestic partner” is used, which might be a local particularity but might also be a clumsy attempt not to say (oh, that word…) “same-sex marriage”.

262 posted on 03/13/2013 6:20:17 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

When the fairies are displeased with anybody, they are said to send their elves to pinch them.

The ecclesiastics, when they are displeased with any civil state, make also their elves, that is, superstitious, enchanted subjects, to pinch their princes, by preaching sedition; or one prince, enchanted with promises, to pinch another.

Hobbes, Thomas. Leviathan: with selected variants from the Latin edition of 1668. Ed. Edwin Curley. Indianapolis: Hackett, 1994.


267 posted on 03/13/2013 6:40:48 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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