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Sixty-four Percent of Schoolchildren Fed on Federal Subsidies
Cybercast News Service ^ | 3/13/13 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 03/13/2013 8:42:36 AM PDT by Nachum

Not so long ago in this republic, most parents of school-age children would frequently visit grocery stores where they would use their own money to buy things like peanut butter and jelly, and bologna and cheese to make lunches for their kids to haul to school in brown paper bags. It was an American tradition. Now, like other great things about America, brown-bag lunches are being driven to extinction by politicians seeking inordinate government control over our lives. In fiscal year 1969 (which started in 1968), there were approximately 47,906,000 American children enrolled in elementary and high schools,

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fed; federal; schoolchildren; schoollunch; subsidies; welfarestate
How long until farmers and farming is nationalized?
1 posted on 03/13/2013 8:42:36 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

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2 posted on 03/13/2013 8:43:12 AM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

The strategic question is this: Who is going to raise, be responsible for and instill fundamental values in future generations of Americans? Will it be parents or the state?

Obviously it will be the State, just like When Chris Rock looks at Obama as his Daddy, for all he knows, he just might be. And dare I say that most Blacks look to Government as being their Daddy. We are so screwed


3 posted on 03/13/2013 8:49:32 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Nachum

My daughter teaches English at a high school for students who have gotten into trouble. When her class discovered that she did not receive food stamps, they were astonished, and could not understand how she obtained food.

But what do you expect when 41% of all children are born out of wedlock?


4 posted on 03/13/2013 8:49:35 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Nachum

Farmers love this and other Federal Government food programs. There is no group of people who are more socialist than them.


5 posted on 03/13/2013 8:51:30 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Nachum
There was a news story broadcast not too long ago in my hometown of La Crosse, Wis. where some local educrats seriously wondered to the cameras how the schoolkids were going to eat if federal lunch programs were cut. I wanted to throw a brick through my tv screen as I shrieked "how about their parents provide a lunch for them?"

All to no avail. Now they want summer lunch programs. Oh my, the poor kids will starve to death if the government doesn't give them a "free" lunch. My wife has to tell me to calm down and watch my blood pressure when I see these things on tv.

6 posted on 03/13/2013 8:51:48 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Nachum

Honestly, I was shocked to read that in 1969 40% of school kids were on the School Lunch program.


7 posted on 03/13/2013 8:53:00 AM PDT by Jane Long
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To: Nachum
Sixty-four Percent of Schoolchildren Fed on Federal Subsidies,

Why are the schools giving breakfast, lunch and dinner to schoolkids while the 'sperm and egg doners' get food stamps.

I thought Food Stamps are to feed the kids!!

8 posted on 03/13/2013 9:06:29 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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To: driftless2

There’s some districts in CA ( and probably elsewhere) where they have free after school care along with free dinners.


9 posted on 03/13/2013 9:06:53 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

We’ve sure come a long way from the days when my mom threw an extended screaming fit just because the school had the audacity to send an application form for free lunches to the house.

Thanks for blowing the whistle on farmers. I used to sell to them. They would come on as being the most conservative, patriotic, traditional values Americans out there. Until someone wanted to cut their particular favorite Federal subsidy. Then it was Katie Bar The Door!


10 posted on 03/13/2013 9:09:43 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ExCTCitizen

I have investigated this, and found out that free breakfast and lunch for the kids does not impact your family ebt calculation.


11 posted on 03/13/2013 9:12:55 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Nachum

Big Food lobby.


12 posted on 03/13/2013 9:13:26 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Nachum

Farming is nationalized.

See Farm Subsidies.


13 posted on 03/13/2013 9:16:03 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: ExCTCitizen

Food stamps are for booze and the casino.


14 posted on 03/13/2013 9:19:00 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Rusty0604

They have that here in Upstate NY...and even have it in the summer when there is no school.


15 posted on 03/13/2013 9:20:20 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Nachum

Not soon, I hope, ‘cause we’ll all starve.


16 posted on 03/13/2013 9:20:55 AM PDT by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Nachum

So that fact that I pack a lunch for my kids every school morning makes me some sort of nutty anachronism?

Oh, well. In the world, but not of it.


17 posted on 03/13/2013 9:27:03 AM PDT by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

>>We’ve sure come a long way from the days when my mom threw an extended screaming fit just because the school had the audacity to send an application form for free lunches to the house.<<

I still do, and yet I can count on the kids bringing them home nearly every semester.

No freebies here...my kids ‘brown-bag’ it every day.


18 posted on 03/13/2013 9:56:58 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around.")
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To: Nachum; All
Congress has no authority under the Constitution's Section 8 of Article I to lay taxes to fund the meals of schoolchildren. In fact, Justice John Marshall had officially clarified Congress's Section 8-limited power to lay taxes.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." --Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

Parents / guardians of schoolchildren have less money in their personal bank accounts to give their kids lunch money because Congress has taxes taken out of parents' payroll checks which Congress cannot justify under Section 8.

Note that the Founding States had established the federal Senate to kill appropriations bills originating in the House of Representatives which establish taxes that ignore Section 8. But as a consequence of state lawmakers unthinkingly giving up control of the federal Senate by ratifying the 17th Amendment, federal senators now help to pass appropriations bills which rob the citizens who elected them to office by means of constitutionally indefensible taxes.

In other words, instead of getting their hands dirty by robbing banks for a living, elite crooks in the USA rob people by getting themselves elected as federal lawmakers to fill their pockets by legislating illegal federal taxes.

19 posted on 03/13/2013 10:05:04 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Nachum

The sum of the collection of the effects of the Liberal media and the Liberal cradle-to-grave federal-handout state says to a young woman:

“Why get married; the state will feed my kid brealfast and lunch at a free school through highschool, pay for his college and then give him a government job as a soon-to-be tenured teacher so he can raise the next crop of kids for the state.??”


20 posted on 03/13/2013 10:14:26 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Uncle Miltie; All
The Supreme Court clarified in United States v. Butler, in terms of the 10th Amendment nonetheless, that the states have never delegated to Congress via the Constitution the specific power to regulate intrastate agriculture.
"From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited. None to regulate agricultural production is given, and therefore legislation by Congress for that purpose is forbidden (emphasis added)." --United States v. Butler, 1936.

But also note, as I've already posted in this thread, that Justice John Marshall had previously officially clarified that Congress cannot lay taxes in the name of state power issues, essentially issues which Congress cannot justify under the Constitution's Section 8 of Article I.

"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." --Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

So not only does Congress not have the constitutional authority to regulate intrastate agriculture, but neither does Congress have the power to lay taxes in the name of subsidizing agriculture.

The reason that corrupt Congress is now wrongly interfering with intrastate agriculture is the following. Activist justices nominated by Constitution ignoring socialist FDR wrongly ignored the above case precedents when they decided Wickard v. Filburn in Congress's favor in 1942.

21 posted on 03/13/2013 10:34:44 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: driftless2

In Baltimore, it is not enough that the public school students are given meals at school. Many of them are sent home each Friday with a backpack full of food for the weekend. And there are pick-ups set up for summertime and for breaks.


22 posted on 03/13/2013 10:47:31 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Amendment10

Except, of course, that courts have held that a farmer producing wheat for his own consumption can affect interstate commerce, and therefore the Feds can control him.

See: Wickard v. Filburn.

Though I’m not clear on whether that precedent still holds.


23 posted on 03/13/2013 10:52:11 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: Nachum

Our son, now 19, was in Jr. High some 6 years ago. We wanted him to take more advanced classes and he was turned down based on testing and other criteria. As soon as the school found out he was on the free lunch program, the story changed. Yes, he could take the advanced classes. How many families are being forced to put their kids on fed lunch subsidies in order to get the better classes for them?

In the end our son was the High School Valedictorian for the class of 2012. He went to a 4-year college having already 70 college credit hours under his belt.

He would not have been able to get there if he wasn’t on the fed lunch program in 2007.


24 posted on 03/13/2013 10:56:12 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: Nachum

This article is misleading. I ate at school cafeterias in the 1960’s and early 70’s, but paid full price. The subsidy comes in if a kid qualifies for free or reduced lunch. So, the author is greatly inflating his numbers.


25 posted on 03/13/2013 11:00:51 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Nachum

Anoter government do good program. Once started only multiples and grows more expensive. There was no free lunches when I went to school.


26 posted on 03/13/2013 11:08:05 AM PDT by geotroy
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To: Bigg Red
I should add that if you walk around La Crosse or the surrounding area, you will not see emaciated wretches standing on street corners begging for scraps of food. You will most likely see the opposite of emaciated.

(There are, of course, the "will work for food" types. The last one I saw was standing at an intersection next to a fast food place that was advertising for help.)

27 posted on 03/13/2013 11:44:43 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: driftless2

I have actually been to your town. It was around 2008. My youngest son and his wife lived there for a few years, and we went out once to visit. It was a very nice town from what we could see.


28 posted on 03/13/2013 12:39:43 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: nascarnation
I have investigated this, and found out that free breakfast and lunch for the kids does not impact your family ebt calculation

The TAXPAYERS are getting SCREWED!!

29 posted on 03/13/2013 12:48:06 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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To: Sacajaweau
Food stamps are for booze and the casino.

and drugs and for toppless dances, too...

30 posted on 03/13/2013 12:49:07 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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To: Uncle Miltie; All
Except, of course, that courts have held that a farmer producing wheat for his own consumption can affect interstate commerce, and therefore the Feds can control him.

Who cares if intrastate commerce affects interstate commerce? That's Congress's problem. You can put your faith in the post FDR era Supreme Court's interpretation of the Commerce Clause if you want to. But I won't give activist justices the benefit of the doubt on questionable decisions.

Here's two more excerpts concerning the limits of Congress's Commerce Clause powers from expert sources, one of them from a Supreme Court opinion since that seems to be where some people put their faith. The excerpts clearly indicate that Congress has no business sticking its big nose into intrastate commerse regardless what activist justices say.

First, using terms like "does not extend" and "exclusively," Thomas Jefferson had officially clarified that Congress has no business sticking its big nose into intrastate commerce.

“For the power given to Congress by the Constitution does not extend to the internal regulation of the commerce of a State, (that is to say of the commerce between citizen and citizen,) which remain exclusively (emphases added) with its own legislature; but to its external commerce only, that is to say, its commerce with another State, or with foreign nations, or with the Indian tribes.” –Thomas Jefferson, Jefferson’s Opinion on the Constitutionality of a National Bank : 1791.

Next, seemingly reflecting on Jefferson's words, Justice John Marshall had officially clarified that Congress has no constitutional authority to regulate intrastate commerce.

"State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress (emphases added)." --Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

31 posted on 03/13/2013 1:10:36 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: ExCTCitizen; Sacajaweau

What proof do you have of this?

Food stamps {SNAP] provide a family with a calculated amount of money based on combined income for the household, on an EBT card to spend down for a month. IIRC, I read, the *card* only works for food. Not booze or caninos. It doesn’t even pay for products to keep you clean like laundry soap and TP.

Help with *drugs* is available through medicaid application and acceptance.

If you have other sourced information, I would be happy to be enlightened.


32 posted on 03/13/2013 1:35:43 PM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: Daffynition

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/investigations/Food-Stamp-New-York-Welfare-Assistance-I-Team-Investigation-Casino-Atlantic-City-139682643.html


33 posted on 03/13/2013 1:43:06 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: driftless2

We have to thank Title 1 program enacted in 1965 under the Elementary and Secondary Education Act. And No Child Left Behind [1994].

The Title 1 funds are largely a boon to schools; I wish they had in place an audit system, to determine how principals spend the money. These funds are a major part of the budget of an individual school, since most BoE have cut back their budgets significantly.


34 posted on 03/13/2013 1:46:26 PM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: Sacajaweau

THX for the link. Having unrestricted EBT cards is just plain stoopid.

Oh, I forgot, legislators are not paid to *think.*


35 posted on 03/13/2013 1:51:35 PM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: Daffynition

This was going on in every state.


36 posted on 03/13/2013 1:58:12 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Unless you *sell* the pin # for the card for pennies on a dollar....I don’t see how *cash* can come out of an SNAP card, unless different states have different programs/administration. ;)


37 posted on 03/13/2013 2:04:43 PM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: Bigg Red

Nice town, but aging town. I now live 15 miles north of the city limits. The population has not increased in fifty years. Like many towns in the U.S., most of the population growth has been to the suburbs. When I was growing up there in the fifties and sixties, the city pop. was 50k and the metro pop. about 60k. Now the town is still 50k and the metro pop. is about 125k. Plus while relatively safe, there’s now drug gangs and the attendant problems. Some areas I didn’t think twice about walking through thirty years ago I’d now give a little thought to. And the local rag, The La Crosse Tribune, which was pretty conservative when I was a kid, is now a New York Slimes clone.


38 posted on 03/13/2013 2:22:06 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: Buckeye McFrog

That’s why I have no hope for this country because even folks who claim to want balanced budgets and small Gov’t raise hell when their favorite goodie is threatened, notwithstanding the fact that every Democrat and more than half of Republicans think Gov’t spending helps the economy.


39 posted on 03/13/2013 7:00:57 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Daffynition
What proof do I have?? I read that a Florida State senator wanted to pass a law to limit SNAP in topless bars because it is happening here in Tampa.

Also another state representative here, said that people were buying ILLEGAL drugs with them.

40 posted on 03/14/2013 7:59:42 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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