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“People can be convicted for thoughts”: ‘Cannibal cop’ attorney says decision will be appealed
PIX 11 ^ | 03/13/2013 | James Ford

Posted on 03/13/2013 7:48:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

His online fantasies to kidnap, sexually torture, cook and eat women were more than just gory make believe. That’s what a jury concluded in its guilty verdict against so-called Cannibal Cop Gilberto Valle that left him, his lead attorney and his family in tears.

“I’m shocked!” was the terse reaction from the mother of Patrol Officer Valle as she ran out of the federal courthouse on Centre Street. Her outburst came minutes after the jury of six men and six women concluded that her son was guilty on the two charges he faced: conspiracy to kidnap and accessing a federal government database without authorization.

“It’s a devastating verdict for us,” said Valle’s lead defense attorney, Julia Gatto. ”We have poured our hearts and souls into this case, and it was devastating to hear, ‘Guilty.’ …I’m sure Mr. Valle was crying. I was certainly crying. It was very emotional to hear, since we believe so much in his innocence.”

Valle has always insisted that disturbing evidence on his computers seized by the FBI were part of a subculture of paraphilia of which he was a part. Paraphilia is a diagnosed mental condition, and paraphiliacs are sexually aroused by thoughts and images of cannibalism.

Among the evidence on the six-year NYPD veteran’s computers that led his now-estranged wife to report him to FBI investigators were images and videos of women chained up and bleeding. An investigator admitted in court that the images and videos appeared to be staged scenarios. Valle also possessed images of women who appeared to be dead, as well as detailed profiles of women — many of whom were friends or acquaintances of his.

At least one of the profiles, titled “Abducting and Cooking Kimberly — A Blueprint” indicated criminal intent on Valle’s part. But in that document, he falsified all of the personal information for the woman he’d plotted with other paraphiliacs to kidnap and abuse.

In fact, Valle, 28, never carried out any of the plans he dreamed up with other cannibal fetish users online, which is why his lawyers were convinced that he was innocent. The jury said otherwise.

“People can be prosecuted for their thoughts,” Valle’s attorney, Robert Baum said outside of court minutes after the verdict came down. Baum added, “And [they can be] convicted, which is even sadder.”

His co-counsel, Gatto, said, “The case involved thoughts that were unusual, bizarre, and frankly very ugly. We think the jury just couldn’t get past that.”

The jury’s deliberation lasted from last Thursday afternoon to late Tuesday morning, with a break for the weekend. Figuring out their collective thought process is, for now, a challenge. PIX11 News went to the home of the jury foreperson, and called him as well, but he was not home for comment. All other jurors left the courthouse without speaking to any reporters.

One juror, who did not want to speak with anyone, contacted the U.S. Attorney’s office to report that a journalist had managed to get past her doorman and to knock on her apartment door. She didn’t answer. U.S. Marshals have been put on standby to respond to unwanted inquiries of jurors by reporters.

The U.S. Attorney, whose office prosecuted this case, had plenty to say about it. A statement issued by U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, Preet Bharara, said, in part, “The Internet is a forum for the free exchange of ideas, but it does not confer immunity for plotting crimes and taking steps to carry out those crimes.”

Valle and his attorneys disagreed. They said that the activity the disgraced police officer engaged in, which included accessing the National Crime Information Center’s database from his NYPD patrol car computer, was for the purpose of carrying out his fantasies only.

“These were thoughts, very ugly thoughts,” Gatto said outside of court, “but we don’t prosecute people for their thoughts. And we’ll continue to appeal.”

She and her legal team plan to file a request within 30 days for the judge to throw out the jury’s verdict. That is not expected to be approved. Valle’s publicly-financed lawyers are also planning to have his case heard in a higher court. They consider this a precedent case.

Meanwhile, Valle remains in solitary confinement in federal lockup. His sentencing date is scheduled for June 19th. He faces up to life in prison.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: cannibal; cannibalcop; internet
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To: the_daug

I agree with you.


21 posted on 03/13/2013 10:18:57 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: chesley

And what about the Left classifying heterosexuality as a mental illness? Don’t think it’ll happen? Just watch.


22 posted on 03/13/2013 10:26:35 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Bigg Red

Think of video productions as another form of storytelling but in a much more powerful way. You don’t have to use subliminal messages to indoctrinate a nation into doing evil.

Remember that old saying, “Monkey see, monkey do”?


23 posted on 03/13/2013 10:30:58 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have come to a different take on what the legal response to the discoveries about this individual should have led to. In my view it should not be his “criminal conviction” but legally enforced institutionalization in a mental hospital.

He most likely did not commit a criminal offense, but I would take his self-admitted mental problem as a public risk if not under institutionalized observation. I do not personally believe that such an individual obsesesses on the cannibalistic fanatasies he does and never, ever, ever hopes to realize them in reality.

I am all opposed to mere “hate crimes”, but a mere “hate crime” is an entirely different area of “thought” than insanity.

His case, like recent mass shooting cases, reflect, in my view, our modern social unwillingness to error on the side of public safety over the Liberty of the insane. I recognize that we can cause grave error either way. That if we swing the pendelum back to error more on the side of public safety, there may develop, down the rode, a slippery slope over the definition of “criminally insane”. I realize it is an error without perfect solutions and only vigilence can trim our excesses, though I acknowledge our excesses must usually incur some harm to someone before we realize we have gone to far. It’s not a perfect world; nor ever will be.


24 posted on 03/13/2013 11:30:50 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Valpal1

Thanks, thats what I get for not following the story closer.


25 posted on 03/13/2013 11:46:21 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: Liz
he was fantasizing UNTIL he took concrete steps to find the women he wanted to cannibalize

I agree that is the law, and it should be. It seems to me this guy was either a little over or under the "concrete steps" line. I guess its up to the appellate courts to give us the answer now that the jury has spoken.

There's some pretty sick stuff on the Internet.

26 posted on 03/13/2013 1:02:44 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

Illegally obtaining the home addresses of his chosen targets by accessing a national law enforcement database for personal purposes is both a crime and a concrete step over the line.

You don’t need the home address of a fantasy, you do if you intend to act out a plan.


27 posted on 03/13/2013 1:44:12 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Jack Hydrazine

oh, I think that is a distinct possibility


28 posted on 03/13/2013 7:12:31 PM PDT by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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To: Bob

“You don’t get life in prison for unauthorized computer access. That sentence is for the conspiracy conviction.”

I wasn’t discussing ‘conviction’. I was approaching only ‘guilt’ or ‘innocence’.


29 posted on 03/14/2013 12:36:27 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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