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Robbery suspect shot and killed by Dollar General Store manager; family speaks out (TN.)
WATE 6 News ^ | Feb 28, 2013 | STEPHANIE BEECKEN

Posted on 03/02/2013 7:41:23 AM PST by EXCH54FE

KNOXVILLE (WATE) - The grandmother of a man shot in killed Wednesday outside a Dollar General Store in East Knoxville is sharing her thoughts on the incident and how her grandson will be remembered.

Wednesday night just before 8 p.m. there was a shootout between a robber and a store manager.

According to the Knoxville Police Department, an armed robber went into the Dollar General Store on Asheville Highway and the robber demanded money from the store's safe.

The store manager complied. The shooting occurred seconds later outside the store. The shooting happened in front of the store in the parking lot.

Multiple shots were fired. The robber was killed. As of now, police are not revealing the shooting victim's identity.

Mary Robinson is the grandmother of the robbery suspect. She found out her grandson had been killed two hours after the shooting occurred.

"Oh the pain, I can't describe the pain when they told me that. I just froze I couldn't do nothing, I just froze," said Robinson.

According to the Knoxville Police Department, the armed robber did get money from the store, but then only a few seconds after the robbery both the store manager and the robber went outside when an altercation occurred.

The robber was shot, then ran away. His body was found a block and a half away on Holston Drive.

The robbery suspect's grandmother wishes the store manager didn't shoot.

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To: winodog
I bet the young man wanted to go to school and start a family

Yeah, he wanted to be a graphic designer.

51 posted on 03/02/2013 9:09:33 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: struggle

Dollar General seems to attract lots of these types. I remember when two robbers were reduced to room temp after robbing a DG not long ago.

Think of all the stores and people that WON’T be robbed because the robbers won’t be around to rob them.


52 posted on 03/02/2013 9:10:15 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (THE SOUND OF MUSIC at the POTEET THEATRE in OKC! See our murals before they are painted over!)
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To: GladesGuru
No, I didn't read the article. I assumed it was the same woman I heard interviewed the other day in a similar story. My bad.

However, living in the south the past two years, I saw much of this. Strong, old-school, mostly in-tact, black families losing their youth to the thug culture.

53 posted on 03/02/2013 9:15:05 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Oatka

Empty...just an emptiness in those eyes. Like there is no soul living in him.


54 posted on 03/02/2013 9:15:13 AM PST by EBH ( The 2nd Amendment exists for times like this.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Good riddance I say! The store manager should be commended, another little punk off the streets.


55 posted on 03/02/2013 9:18:24 AM PST by Lucky2 (Obama is a Socialist Dictator)
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To: EXCH54FE

Good riddance I say! The store manager should be commended, another little punk off the streets.


56 posted on 03/02/2013 9:18:51 AM PST by Lucky2 (Obama is a Socialist Dictator)
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To: Yo-Yo
"Buy a shotgun."

I think the vice-prez should be suspended for pointing his fingers in an unsafe direction. Lord know our kids would be suspended from school if they acted so "stupidly" and performed such a stunt!

57 posted on 03/02/2013 9:25:23 AM PST by bygolly
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To: riri

Where’s mom and dad?


58 posted on 03/02/2013 9:27:46 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Rome2000

Oh no, he will still be voting for years to come.


59 posted on 03/02/2013 9:28:05 AM PST by kg_mobster
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To: EXCH54FE

To get a good idea of what we Knoxvillians think of subhuman vermin like the one here that (”that” deliberately used instead of “who,” even though I’ll often use “who” in referring to loving, decent dogs) got a permanent dirt nap, just read the comments to the story.


60 posted on 03/02/2013 9:29:57 AM PST by libstripper
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To: Lawgvr1955
Exactly. And why should a victim have to wait for the perp to decide if it is life or death?

Chances are probably good that it will be life. On the other hand, what if it is death.

In a situation like this, I'd assume the worst — shoot and ask questions later.

61 posted on 03/02/2013 9:31:46 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: EXCH54FE

There are three traditional aggravations in this story:

1) “I felt like he shouldn’t have done it (shot her grandson). He should have left everything up to the police,” said Robinson.

2) Police recommend people give the robber what they want. “It’s certainly not worth losing your life over $20, $30, $100 or so, so we always tell people to comply.”

3) Isaacs also says you are not entitled to use deadly force if you are not in imminent danger.

From an Arizona point of view, only the grandmother’s opinion deserves any respect, but only from the point of view that she would be expected to prefer a live grandson to a dead one, no matter how heinous his crimes.

Of course it is not worth losing your life over $20, $30, or $100. But it is fine and dandy if the armed robber loses *his* life for the cost of a few bullets. It is not fair to the taxpayer that he should deprive them of a million dollars or two by his upkeep for a decade or more. His life isn’t worth a fraction of that.

Finally, HELL YES, you can use lethal force even if your life is not in imminent danger. You can use it in many cases just to prevent a felony. In fact, that is one of the big meanings of the word felony, that it is serious enough to lose your life over.

“At common law when the British and American legal systems divorced in 1776, felonies were crimes for which the punishment was either death or forfeiture of property.”


62 posted on 03/02/2013 9:31:46 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: GladesGuru

Granny, no parents I guess, you should have wished he had a Fing JOB. Then this punk wouldn’t have been out robbing people.


63 posted on 03/02/2013 9:33:33 AM PST by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: Jeff Winston

The problem — where were mom and dad? Grandparents are limited in what they can do.

However, this is typical of low income, broken families.

She tried her best in a tough situation, but unfortunately she failed.


64 posted on 03/02/2013 9:34:21 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Lawgvr1955

Same BS advice they gave airline passengers pre-9/11. Comply, everything will be just fine. And the gungrabbers want these “authorities” to be the only people who are armed?
I say “Let’s roll !!!”


65 posted on 03/02/2013 9:37:29 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: GladesGuru

Agreed. Where were mom and dad? They created this monster spawn. The grandma tried to keep him from the dark side.


66 posted on 03/02/2013 9:37:54 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: EXCH54FE

///The grandmother of a man shot in killed Wednesday outside a Dollar General Store in East Knoxville is sharing her thoughts on the incident and how her grandson will be remembered.

He will be remembered as a turd.


67 posted on 03/02/2013 9:39:47 AM PST by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
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To: P-Marlowe
Mary Robinson said of her grandson.

Mary Robinson? Maybe this really is Obama's son.

68 posted on 03/02/2013 9:50:32 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: GladesGuru

Unless the church was Black Liberation Theology based.


69 posted on 03/02/2013 10:27:47 AM PST by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: Rome2000
"One less democrat voter."

No, he's dead now so he gets to vote twice.
70 posted on 03/02/2013 10:33:51 AM PST by The Louiswu (Torpedo the Constitution and full speed ahead!!!)
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No sense of shame in our Obama underclass. You would think a relative would be ashamed to even talk about a young man who has used the threat of force to take something that was not his. Is there any hope for this crowd?


71 posted on 03/02/2013 10:43:26 AM PST by Godwin1
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To: EXCH54FE
The robbery suspect's grandmother wishes the store manager didn't shoot.

I wish grandma had taught her grandson right from wrong.

All I have to say to her is... that's one, grandma. Better get busy on the others before you lose them, too.

72 posted on 03/02/2013 10:52:16 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: norwaypinesavage
"Maybe incidents like this will help prevent others from attempting it."

I doubt it. The perp had a criminal record but it didn't stop him from doing it again. The longer the individual gets away with criminal behavior, the more emboldened they become. They never think of the possibility of dying or getting arrested prior to, or during the criminal act. They think they're invincible. The article said the manager's identity has been withheld. I wonder if he is white or black. Chances are, the people who go to that store know the manager by sight. I hope he isn't targeted by one of the morons in the neighborhood.

73 posted on 03/02/2013 11:27:22 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Texas Fossil

Grandma looks a little like Maxine Waters.


74 posted on 03/02/2013 11:32:40 AM PST by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: EXCH54FE
The grandmother of a man shot in killed Wednesday outside a Dollar General Store in East Knoxville is sharing her thoughts on the incident and how her grandson will be remembered.

Grandma, he's going to be remembered as a stupid low-life thug who tried to kill a store manager. Now he daid.

75 posted on 03/02/2013 11:58:11 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Give the manager a medal. He’s a hero.


76 posted on 03/02/2013 12:21:57 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: EXCH54FE
You are allowed to use the degree of force someone uses against you

No. If you break into my house and use no force against me, I will still shoot you or attempt to beat the crap out of you.

77 posted on 03/02/2013 12:33:56 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: rawcatslyentist

These criminals are going to be unionized pretty soon


78 posted on 03/02/2013 12:34:27 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Lawgvr1955
Police recommend people give the robber what they want.

Really? You think that won't encourage them to keep coming back?

What if they want your daughter? Should you leave the window unlocked for them?

79 posted on 03/02/2013 12:36:35 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Mama Shawna

Picky Picky/s


80 posted on 03/02/2013 12:38:26 PM PST by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy,,, other times I just let her sleep.)
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To: GeronL
They already have E Dole and the Red Cross catering their get togethers.

Trady mark is trademarked.

It's time to deport them back to their continent of origin if they commit any felony. They want to claim dual nationalities, let's let them have the benefits of such claims.

81 posted on 03/02/2013 12:41:44 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: GladesGuru
The grandmother of the dead criminal did try to acculturate him.

We learned all about those churches from Reverend Wright and Farrakhan

82 posted on 03/02/2013 12:45:56 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Jeff Winston

But something else was stronger. Peer influence? Public schools? Rap music?....Lack of paternalistic guidance?


83 posted on 03/02/2013 12:48:17 PM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: winodog
I bet the young man wanted to go to school and start a family

The correct phrase is: "He was thinking about going back to school to get his GED and marry one of his baby mammas".

84 posted on 03/02/2013 1:26:55 PM PST by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: Rome2000
One less democrat voter.

But magically, three more democRAT votes. Many of these misguided yutes are of more value to their community dead than alive.

85 posted on 03/02/2013 1:34:11 PM PST by 300winmag (Overkill Never Fails)
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To: EXCH54FE
The guy robbed SIX OTHER Stores since January. One of the ones he robbed Twice is one I worked as a night clerk back in the late 1980’s. The place always spooked me because it was kinda off to itself. A year or so after I quit an IGA across the road got robbed in broad daylight and a clerk was killed. Yes I carried every night I worked. Only a fool wouldn't. We kinda let word slip out we carried and we didn't get robbed.

The store I worked at was also in the neighborhood where the carjacking took place and a mile or two from the double murder torture to follow some have heard about.

I'm glad this guy didn't kill someone. According to our local paper he was becoming more and more agressive in his robberies.

86 posted on 03/02/2013 1:49:19 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Rome2000
One less democrat voter.

Not necessarily. You know the cemetaries are active on election day.

87 posted on 03/02/2013 1:56:46 PM PST by Marathoner (What are we waiting for? Where are the Articles of Impeachment!)
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To: BooBoo1000

Pet Peeve....;)


88 posted on 03/02/2013 2:15:02 PM PST by Mama Shawna
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To: Jeff Winston

>>But something else was stronger. Peer influence? Public schools? Rap music? Whatever it was, he’s dead.

After teaching 3 years in a 99% black HS, I can say that it’s a lack of a father. My brother in law is black (my sister is white) and he is simply an awesome guy. His father and mother are still married and instilled in him the values that made him the successful father he is today.

The black males that have no father that I taught are listless and looking for SOME male figure to adhere to. Most of them choose whatever rapper is famous at the time because of rap’s false masculinity. Rap tries to act like a man, but a masculine man marries, cares for his kids, and loves his wife.

It’s sad that people can’t see this as vividly as I can.


89 posted on 03/02/2013 5:11:39 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: struggle

“a masculine man marries, cares for his kids, and loves his wife.”

Well said.


90 posted on 03/02/2013 5:40:14 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: Lawgvr1955
"It's certainly not worth losing your life over $20, $30, $100 or so, so we always tell people to comply," said Knoxville Police Department Spokesperson Darrell Debusk.

I disagree unequivocally. Shoot the bastard at the first opportunity; all 17 rounds in the magazine.

He made the decision that his life was worth $20, $30, $100 or so. Who are we to disagree?

91 posted on 03/02/2013 11:21:10 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: DJ Frisat
at which time the local police will likely fold like a cheap Republican...

I am going to steal that line, even though it made me spit out a mouthful of coffee.

92 posted on 03/02/2013 11:27:29 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: GeronL
These criminals are going to be unionized pretty soon.

They already are.
You haven't heard of the SEIU?

93 posted on 03/02/2013 11:36:50 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: TADSLOS

Lol are we using FSA on FR now? First time I saw it was on arfcom.


94 posted on 03/03/2013 12:19:14 AM PST by mbennett203 ("Bulrog, a tough brute ninja who has dedicated his life to eradicating the world from hippies.")
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To: TADSLOS

Lol are we using FSA on FR now? First time I saw it was on arfcom.


95 posted on 03/03/2013 12:19:14 AM PST by mbennett203 ("Bulrog, a tough brute ninja who has dedicated his life to eradicating the world from hippies.")
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To: mbennett203

First double post evar I think, oops.


96 posted on 03/03/2013 12:40:24 AM PST by mbennett203 ("Bulrog, a tough brute ninja who has dedicated his life to eradicating the world from hippies.")
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To: riri

I doubt anyone here would accuse me of being a defender of minorities

But that aint fair

Old woman may have done all she could and may have loved him

Some just go bad....we don’t know

He brought it on hisself no question though


97 posted on 03/03/2013 12:50:32 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: GladesGuru

Lol....i just posted sorta same thing without seeing yours

And neither of us are what i would call kneejerk on minority greivance crap

But here we are.....scolding the hardbitten

Are we going soft?

Lol


98 posted on 03/03/2013 12:57:36 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: P-Marlowe
"He was my big baby. He was my oldest grandchild.

That's bad news. It implies her genes still propagate via younger siblings.

99 posted on 03/03/2013 1:35:55 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: publius911

Be my guest! Happy to be of service...


100 posted on 03/03/2013 5:16:06 AM PST by DJ Frisat ((optional, printed after my name on post))
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