Posted on 02/28/2013 10:10:24 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
Washington (CNN) -- Struggling again with an issue important to women and minority groups, House Republicans on Thursday failed to pass their version of a new Violence Against Women Act and then split over a Senate version that won approval with unanimous Democratic support.
The votes reflected an emerging political reality in the GOP-led House, with a minority of Republicans joining Democrats to pass legislation supported by the public, including increasingly influential demographics such as Hispanic Americans.
By a vote of 166-257, the GOP version failed to win a majority after almost 90 minutes of debate. The House then voted 286-138 to pass the Senate version, with 87 Republicans joining all 199 Democrats to provide majority support.
Originally passed in 1994 and reauthorized since, the act provides support for organizations that serve domestic violence victims. Criminal prosecutions of abusers are generally the responsibility of local authorities, but the act stiffened sentences for stalking under federal law.
Supporters credit the act with sharply reducing the number of lives lost to domestic violence over the past two decades.
Last year, the House and Senate were unable to compromise on another extension of the act, with Republicans opposing Democratic attempts to specify inclusion of native Americans, undocumented immigrants and lesbian, transgender and bisexual women.
However, exit polling showed President Barack Obama won strong support among women and Latino voters in the November election that also strengthened the Democratic majority in the Senate and weakened the Republican majority in the House.
Republicans then changed their stance and agreed to bring up the measure in the new Congress as long as they could offer their own version.
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I don’t know all the details of this bill, but I understand the Senate version has some terrible parts to it. We need to understand what the House GOP version was...and if it was superior, identify who voted against it and determine who the problems are.
I don’t know what ever happened to the idea of each house passing a bill and going to conference committee, but it needs to be reestablished. Seems like our House is following the Obamacare model of only passing whatever comes out of the Senate...and that is nuts.
And we need to primary every last one of these RINO's next year...
Sold out yet again by spineless Republicans.
so laws already on the books never included women ,next it will be a law for every person by name ?
Oh yeah. "It's the pandering for votes, stupid."
The truth here is that it is NOT about violence against women but about protecting a sexual group as needing special rights, as would have not been the case in the Republican sponsored bill that was defeated.
The truth again, this isn't about violence but about punishing a group and protecting another group based upon sexuality.
They are not RINOs. They are Republicans...plain and simple. This is what the majority of the party has become.
Now now, 99% of all lawyers give the rest a bad name.
Nice job Republicans! Now all any illegal has to do is claim they experienced domestic violence sometime in their lives and they get an automatic golden ticket. I'm sure this provision won't be abused... /sarcasm
The Republicans have done this to us. They could have stopped it Now it is a Federal to yell at your wife or, indeed, if anyone who is a member of a protected minority feels abused or “dissed” by anyone else, that is now a federal crime.
VAWA -
Worst gov’t interference in families ever. Bad for women, bad for men, bad for children.
So instead of just enforcing existing assault laws onthe books we pass reams and reams of more new convoluted laws that are vague and easily abused by selective enforcement by government officials????
And we wonder WHY the Republic has been lost....
The Republicans have done this to us. They could have stopped it Now it is a Federal to yell at your wife or, indeed, if anyone who is a member of a protected minority feels abused or “dissed” by anyone else, that is now a federal crime.
So if I hate my Liberal boss I should annoy them until they snap at me and yell at me then I can get their voting rights taken away????
AWESOME!
“but I understand the Senate version has some terrible parts to it. “
Such as?
They'll do anything to escape the phony "war on women" and "racism" tags.
The VAWA, in effect, doesn’t really decrease violence against women. It’s unconstitutional and violates the rights of many conservatives—Second Amendment and others. Conservative family rights organizations estimated some 15 million adult American men and women violated, robbed and/or wrongfully incarcerated as of the late-’90s, including Dr. Emerson, put in federal prison for five years for possessing a firearm (in his office, IIRC) after being accused of domestic violence. A lower court decided to free him. A higher court decided to keep him in prison. The Supreme Court refused to hear his case.
It’s part of the reason Obama was elected and reelected. Many whose freedoms are violated by political fascists/socialists tend to reject politics and leave the polls to the debt-sucking mobs. Many who are prevented from producing (manufacturing, building, etc.) or whose property rights are violated do the same. Others simply see the wild extents to which government-funded salaries for deleterious offices climb.
It's about protecting ANYONE who's part of a left wing voting block.
There are no "special" protections because a person is white.
There are no "special" protections for Christians.
There are no "special" protections for heterosexuals.
There are no "special" protections for the tax paying class.
In fact, 2nd Amendment rights are even being debated for gun owners right now.
Only those from left wing voting blocks are given "special" rights. Even worse, the dumbass Republicans fall for this crap every time!! Have they ever came up with a bill that protects a right wing voting block? HUH? Anything????
The Republican "representatives" are DUMBASSES!
Mark Levin covered this yesterday. Under this law you can lose your right to own a gun because of something you said. Levin says Eric Cantor has to go.
Here’s the sad thing. WE, The People, have the ability to take the republic back. Not by elections, those are all fixed.
We should create a bill that is called the “The Adorable Kitten Preservation and Protection against gun violence Act”
In it the Federal government give 10 dollars to every animal shelter on the first page and oh by the way ends all welfare program in the other 10,000 pages in it...
Knowing how stuipid Most the Congress Critters are the damn thing would probably pass with votes by the Dims and the RINOs...
Who would be against poor little kittens....
boner didn’t have to bring it to a vote.
cave in continues.
bad law continues.
any excuse for a tyrant...
There are some very dangerous portions of this bill.
It is now a federal felony to even utter loud or uncomfortable words to a woman.
Native American law enforcement officers can even arrest and charge people accused of uncomfortable speech toward NA women, even off of tribal lands.
The Liberals clain the Conservative have a “War on Women”, but the liberals have waged a “War on Conservative Women on the Behalf of crazy moonbat Liberal Women” for many many years.
This violates the first and second amendment.
You're no longer free to express yourself (censorship) , and if you do you lose your right to self defense.
The Republican party likes this idea.
There are some very dangerous portions of this bill.
It is now a federal felony to even utter loud or uncomfortable words to a woman.
Register the gun Owners... Check
They send a mintory woman to your doow from a federal agency to talk to you about said guns, you tell her to go to hell...
Instant Felony, guns get taken 10 mintes later by federal agents following this “provacateur” around.....
They will probably take your kids and send them to an indoctrination camp as well...
It amazes me how many existing laws haven’t been abused YET by these slimes...
GOP HOUSE VOTES AGAINST GOP BILL:
Bridenstine
Broun (GA)
Calvert
Camp
Capito
Coffman
Cole
Cook
Cotton
Culberson
Daines
Denham
Dent
DeSantis
Diaz-Balart
Duncan (SC)
Duncan (TN)
Fincher
Fitzpatrick
Frelinghuysen
Gardner
Garrett
Gerlach
Gibson
Gohmert
Gosar
Grimm
Hanna
Hastings (WA)
Heck (NV)
Huelskamp
Issa
Jones
Lamborn
Lance
LoBiondo
McClintock
McHenry
Meadows
Meehan
Miller (MI)
Mullin
Noem
Olson
Pearce
Petri
Poe (TX)
Pompeo
Radel
Ros-Lehtinen
Runyan
Schweikert
Sensenbrenner
Simpson
Stockman
Tipton
Valadao
Yoho
Young (FL)
The Tea Party is not going to do us much good because most of them turn into Republican Establishment types once in office, or simply had no actual principles but said all the right conservative things to get elected.
with women in "combat" now, AQ will be served with restraining orders and orders for protection. that'll teach 'em. Frank Lottenturd can parachute in and take their guns.
It’s a “first responders” and judicial regime. They now have full discretion over even larger private estates of their neighbors.
Glad I am leaving the country. I can’t take this sh— any longer.
Very bad news. Good work, Boner.
Winning an argument with your wife now lands you in jail!!!!
What the hell was he thinking? Does he really believe this bill is going to be used to help people? Is he really that stupid?
I'm female. I take offense to the republican parties abuse of my personal freedoms. Can I have them all arrested now? Where do my new super powers end?
It’s all about keeping women on the plantation. It’s politics and now Democrats can say, “Conservatives don’t care about women.”
Of course, the bumper sticker will read:
Candidate X voted against the Violence Against Women Act, Why?
They weren't incumbents and they weren't democrats. That was enough, right?
/s
That's correct; they'll only get to vote twice instead of three times.
Proud of Thomas Massie our only KY critter to vote against it.
Well, not yet.
Sounds good, does bad, right up Boehner's ally.
How/why is it back? Are liberals hoping for a do-over in the SCOTUS?
I agree with you. We don’t have a party.
We need to form a new one. One that is Conservative and wituout backstabbers.
Agreed. And have fun trying to defend yourself. Impossible.
Egalitarianism has consequences. One group will govern and take the benefits the other group will feel the whip. The law eternal.
That’s right. The most sinister aspect to this bill is that it makes abuse — including “verbal abuse” — against a woman or other protected minority a felony. Get convicted of a felony and you lose your 2nd Amendment rights.
This must be one of those gun control efforts that Obama once mentioned he had going on “under the radar.”
The House of Representatives passed the Violence Against Women Act, extending abuse protections to gay, lesbians, and transgender people, as well as Native Americans and immigrants.
The bill passed 286 to 138, with the support of 87 Republicans; it will now move to the president’s desk to be signed. A GOP substitute bill that left out protections for Native communities and LGBT people was defeated 166 to 257.
so laws already on the books never included women ,next it will be a law for every person by name ?
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You clearly point out the ridiculousness of this type of legislation.
How about a bill that says it’s not okay to kill or maim anyone but a white, heterosexual male? Something tells me they would be okay with such a law.
I don’t see Randy Weber’s name on this list as voting against it. He is brand new House member who replaced Ron Paul. Would hope that he either wasn’t present for the vote or was just omitted in error from the last of those who voted NO.
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